A good line runner is not the criteria for a second row although it does obviously help
Lane is a good line runner but hardly a quality second row
To say Griffin has not made the transition into second row is ludicrous.
I was a major critic of Griffin as a centre and one of the first to advocate he moved into the second row.
Once he increased his fitness and workrate he became a very good second row for the club and it was only his brain farts and possible attitude to a previous coach that saw him leave the club.
He is a regular in the Wakefield team playing second row and scored again today.
Maybe you will change your mind when you see him next season playing for Wakefield against us in S/L

I noticed that. Going forward Staveley, Martin, Moy, Balmforth and Charles all look capable of making the grade and there are others not far away as well. We've witnessed a shambles on the field for the last few seasons but we are producing quality through our youth set up and that makes me feel optimistic about the future. Need to be patient with these kids though.

Great effort, sin bin cost us, happens every week in games but never gets penalised, bit more composure, less brain farts and less daft penalties and we will win.

Just thinking
Could Martin have gone nearer the posts with his try ??

The tv doesn’t show how close the other defender was but also Martin looked like it was the corner and nothing else

It was the easy kick that reynolds missed that cost us plus the sin binning and 2 penalty shots at goal we gifted sneyd

Effort is there, we just lack some quality. Moy is getting better every game

I think you'll struggle to see a softer yellow card all season than the Briscoe one.

On the Reynolds miss kick for Lanes try, he looked to have taken a knock the play before. Mightve been better for Sutcliffe to take the kick

I have been quite critical of Grix for some of his comments in recent weeks, however one thing that can't be taken away from him is that he has got this young group fired up and competitive again. I thought we were really unlucky to lose yesterday, going down to 12 for such a soft offence is incredibly frustrating and was ultimately where Salford racked up most of their points.

What is pleasing to see is the likes of Moy, Martin, Balmorth and to an extent Gardiner not looking out of place in Super League and getting better with each game. I also thought Kirby made a good account for himself on debut.

I can half understand Briscoe's obstruction being given for a (soft) penalty, given how the modern game is officiated, but as you say, the subsequent sin-binning was on the soft side of softer!!! It was then further compounded by Salford scoring two of their three tries while we were a man down, which ultimately was the deciding factor in the game's outcome.

The whole afternoon felt like our season in a nutshell. The element of luck appears to have deserted us, and even when it does go our way, we always seem to contrive a way to shoot ourselves in the foot!! At least we are now in games for the full eighty minutes as opposed to the hammerings from earlier in the year, so let's be thankful for that at least!

We always hear how these things even out over the year. Off the top of my head I can think of 2 very questionable cards - Nu Brown & Briscoe yesterday. When exactly does it even out? I can’t remember any such decisions going our way so far.

14 points scored in briscoe's absence. We're playing better and more competitive but it just shows what an absolute shambles of a coaching team smith and gene were. I hope davy appoints him as hudds coach as and when he sacks excuse boy

I agree Sutcliffe should have taken the conversion following Lanes try.
Would have given him something to do

Hes playing second row in the championship, id hardly call that a transision. He wasnt bad but Carlos would never make a SR.

It’s been a problem posting on the site, don’t know if it’s me, but really annoying trying to type.

I went to the Salford game, it was nice to see Sneyd being presented with his black and white shirt by Adam, the little half is a mercurial talent, and despite his age was the ultimate reason for our hard earned defeat.

I was talking to two chaps from Salford who were very disappointed we had managed to sign Amir Borough, I said I didn’t know much about him, and if he was that good why isn’t he playing, instead of the loan deal to Barrow.

They said he was on the bench, so obviously took an interest in his performance, although not on for very long, he made a couple of dynamic breaks, looked very fast and powerful, all in all with a small snapshot of him, he looked very promising.

A different style to Deneve, but hopefully we have a couple of good hookers here, backed up of course with availability of Cade Cust, in this department we have surely strengthened, as Danny heads for a well deserved sabbatical.