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Fair play to the 8K that turned out on a Thursday night. And on Sky.

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Quote: Smiggs "Get what some are saying about Johnstone and McNamara but our problems lay at the door of our senior players. Big earners who don't stand up and lead when it matters. Time to move some of them on. The squad will be better for it.'"


Said earlier in the season that Taylor only played eleven games last season and missed most of this and i thought we have seen the best of him.
Flabby,slow, no power.If he had been an opposition front row we would have been saying what a waste of space.

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Quote: bonaire "Said earlier in the season that Taylor only played eleven games last season and missed most of this and i thought we have seen the best of him.
Flabby,slow, no power.If he had been an opposition front row we would have been saying what a waste of space.'"


If he’s not fit, he shouldn’t be anywhere near the team. Jack Brown offers more at the moment. Looked to be really struggling to make any metres today.

Like Houghton he’s been flogged to death in previous years.

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A really disappointing flat performance, and the curse of our home form bites yet again, only Manu and Ligi looked dangerous, even Big Chris and Andre looked poor.

Come back Scotty Taylor where have you gone, I’m yet to see any of Brett Hodgson influence on this team, it’s worrying once more we fail to deliver any real threat, in a game which was so important we failed miserably to an average Cas team. In truth we never looked like winning,

Thaler also had a shocking game, not using that as an excuse, all Cas had to do was work it wide, and that was us done. I’ve said it before, big pitch, slow team, bring back Ratu.

It looks like the dynasty of Tag Mint Bowden, Sneyd and Mahe is creaking like a giant tanker hitting an ice berg, almost ready to sink, and yet still afloat, just.

The big worry of course is our younger players are not really up to it, Macca, Scott, Johnstone, Brown are not pulling any trees up,

Perhaps the effort in a gruelling Derby took its toll on both Hull teams tonight,

8000 for a Thursday televised game was an outstanding effort from the Hull supporters, who didn’t deserve that rubbish,
Nice to see Keith Rhino Boxall enjoying his moment,

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Thought Mint was one of our better performer's. Taylor was awful. As in deed where most of Hull. Rovers where reported as very poor as well. Makes you wonder if the Derby took a bit more juice out of both teams. Still a very poor display. Gotta win on Monday.

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Quote: hull2524 "Thought Mint was one of our better performer's. Taylor was awful. As in deed where most of Hull. Rovers where reported as very poor as well. Makes you wonder if the Derby took a bit more juice out of both teams. Still a very poor display. Gotta win on Monday.'"


Houghton wasn’t that good when he was good. Tackling machine whose distribution and running wasn’t anywhere what you would expect from an elite player. The guy is a myth based on one tackle and playing with a monster pack who steamrolled teams.

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Quote: spegs "Houghton wasn’t that good when he was good. Tackling machine whose distribution and running wasn’t anywhere what you would expect from an elite player. The guy is a myth based on one tackle and playing with a monster pack who steamrolled teams.'"


See Houghtons needless offside when we pinned cass on their line, Pearson was furious in the stands, down to 12 and sustained pressure and one of your senior players gives away a ridiculous offside like that.

Funny as before the game, it showed the Leeds highlights and he did the exact same against them, that led to a try. See the Cam Scott error, why isn't Houghton there playing the ball and getting the team set?

As the commentators said it was setup for him and sneyd to take control when Mcshane went off, yet they didn't.

Sorry but too many senior players have got in a comfort zone and are too sloppy. Sat on big contracts and not really performing. Happens across all sports.

I'd heard whispers about Taylor being nowhere near fit, showed last night he was out of puff after his second carry, again Where's the professionalism?

Sneyd was awol again, been way too inconsistent this season.

Probably the most unpopular opinion on here, but the truth hurts as they say, time for a new leadership group, but and it's a big but, but too many sat on nice cosy contracts and the academy products aren't good enough........

I'd be shaking it up next year, offering players to other clubs hoping we can shift some on, the captains group would definitely be getting disbanded and new players who put effort in week in week out and show some fight appointed.

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McNamara reminds me of Milky.
Lots of promise, but on the night we needed much more.

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Quote: bonaire "I agree about Johnstone,Dont think he will be here next season.Change of club or loan
Probably get the hate mails for saying this but if McNamara wanst the son of Steve he wouldnt be anywhere near the first team.
Even at 19 you should be seeing signs of quality but there is nothing there to excite and given that he is not blessed with pace will i am certain end up as a nine in the Championship
Young Pryce will have the pick of clubs when his contract is for renewal and the club should be doing everything in their power to try and bring him here.'"


Got to agree about McNamara - he looks to be too light framed. I know HKR Rowan Milnes is 21 but he’s miles ahead of Ben. If the club see something in Ben then they must give him time to develop at the moment he’s getting slaughtered.

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AP must have been fuming. We undo the good work we did on Saturday. He’s previously said we needed to finish the season strongly to set us up for next year.

Wasn’t the fact we got beat, it was the lacklustre performance at home yet again.
Cas weren’t anything that special, but we were clueless at times.

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Wondering how long theyve all got left on their contracts and how much they earn

Taylor
Sneyd
Houghton
Bowden
Johnstone
Fonua

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Quote: Rocknrolla69er "Wondering how long theyve all got left on their contracts and how much they earn

Taylor
Sneyd
Houghton
Bowden
Johnstone
Fonua'"


Think a few of those are 2023

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Think our only hopes shipping some out on loan and hoping we can get a big percentage of wage covered.

Johnstone/Bowden maybe?

Seriously need some room to manoeuvre with regards to new signings.

Who was the guy sat in the stands next Pearson, honest thought it was ehab allam at first hahaha

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Was it Ralph Zoing, one of the Directors?

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Quote: Irregular Hoops "AP must have been fuming. We undo the good work we did on Saturday. He’s previously said we needed to finish the season strongly to set us up for next year.

Wasn’t the fact we got beat, it was the lacklustre performance at home yet again.
Cas weren’t anything that special, but we were clueless at times.'"


It was always going to be difficult to back up against Cas following on from the derby and having lost both Cator & Reynolds for the season. However what was concerning is manner of the performance which was poor. Cas had played the same night as us so no extra recovery time and they then lost McShane early in the game yet not only did we not take advantage of that we didn't even look capable of doing so we had a chance to run at him when he could hardly move but each time Houghton went the other way, any top team would have picked him out whilst he was still in the line.

Our ball retention and completion rate was terrible, our line speed in both attack and defence for 80 mins was none existent. Too many times when we played the ball we passed it backwards about 20M which is ok of you are running on to the ball with real intent but they are all just stood still so we invariably end up with about a 5M gain or a loss. I saw no leaders out there last night (we missed Reynolds with his fight and enthusiasm) and its clear as day we need more from 9 than just tackling. Sadly McNamara offered little attacking threat but to be fair he didn't have many options as no one seemed prepared to run on to a ball or be a dummy of angled runner (other than Mau & Lane), I thought defensively he stood up well. Mau, Swift, Faraimo with possibly Lane the only ones for me that showed up, Sao did ok but was below his usual performance which is to be expected considering the minutes he's played and missing Satae the last two games.
Its another home game where they have put in a rather forgettable effort/performance which want help to bring new fans in or keep some of the ones struggling to stick with things.
Cas isolated Connor pretty well which nullified him from having much impact but we didn't seem to make any changes to address that.
Also hearing BH after saying he took McNamara off and put Houghton in at 6 to try to inject a spark was baffling as he doesn't provide any spark at 9 and hasn't for a few years now.

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