Satae is gonna get burnt out at this rate.

Hard to disagree with that.

But its important to note the recruitment errors are from 2 years ago under Radford, apart from Reynolds Hodgson hasn't brought anyone in. Pearson kept faith with Radford too long and we are still paying for that.

Some questions to be asked about Hodgson's tactics and in particular his use of the bench however. Expected to at least see a few new plays by now.

Leeds weren’t great at all, but we made them look good. Luckily they bombed a couple of tries as well.
Was a step back tonight. Back to being camped on the opposition 25 and creating nothing.
Game plan currently is give it to Satae.
We just threw inaccurate passes down one side, then back across again. No one hit a gap at speed.
Love my club, but really struggling at the moment to get enthusiastic about the game in general.

my observations that may have been posted

1. Pivots to Centre’s isn’t working - that’s where your magic is and we have none
2. Fonua is so unfit and the whole back room staff need a bollocking for allowing this, along with the player himself. He’s 15kg over weight easily
3. Connor Wynne - watch the play from 50-53 mins, for a 20 year old how can you be absolutely flooked just 11 mins into a 2nd half. watch how he’s hanging on in D and is basically out of it and then at 53 mins he is still blowing at the ply the ball - i just couldn’t believe it
4. Connor is our 6 and the sooner BH realises this the better for when he’s back
5. Jamie Shaul can’t defend so we have both a hooker and full back issue for me as Connor isn’t anywhere near fast enough for FB. The try v England shows that
6. time for a new hooker
7. attack needs a new philosophy

anyways there’s my thoughts

Wynne has just turned 20 and has how many starts at FB at SL level, less than a dozen over 2.5 seasons, the kid is a rookie?

Comparing him to other FB at this point in his career is somewhat unfair don't you think, he might not have what Connor has in his game, but like Shaul he has stuff in his locker than Connor doesn't.
A few years of average to poor coaching through your formative years and being out the team more than you're in isn't going to change that overnight.

Agree with just about everything you say but what makes you think Shaul can't defend? Have you not watched him make one on one tackles at FB? Why do you want a tackling based dummy half, isn't that what we pay our forwards to do when defending, to do the grunt work in defence? Just because Houghtin has been flogged to the point he's ineffective in attack (and diminishes his defence also) doesn't mean we should continue doing that.

Houghton has been flogged to death over the last few years, and it’s catching up with him now.

I don’t think it’s catching up with him I’d say it’s already caught up with him and in fairness to Andy Last he managed to get something out of Houghton & Johnstone when he started with JJ and spelled them both. Right now we get nothing from either of them.

And let’s not forget discipline. Too many of our players are picking up suspensions for stupid altercations.

We could have really done with Savelio tonight, but he is sat in the stands for three games for getting personal with Jones, that provides zero benefit to the club.

Then Josh Reynolds getting himself sin binned and potentially copping a ban for an stupid coming together after Leeds have scored. Why? Did he think his actions would get the try over-ruled?

With several key players out injured, these incidents really hurt the team. Injuries are accidental. I appreciate it’s a physical sport, but making yourself unavailable due to a self inflicted ban is as bad as being a poor organiser, rushing out of the line, missing a tackle, being flogged to death and having a poor kicking game.

What was the crowd last night?

Chris & Ligi = 333 metres
The rest of our pack including subs = 315 metres

Disgraceful

Bowden shouldn't play again this season. He just doesn't look interested. 4 carries says it all.

Not only is Fonua not making anywhere near enough impact for a Marquee player he is also a penalty machine.
Those 2 attempts to strip the ball cost us the equivalent of how many metres he made in the whole match. He does it too often and yet the coaches haven't stopped him. WHY?
I really really liked Mahe when he was here last but he's unfit and both him and the coaching staff are to blame.
There is no way he should be so unfit. It's almost beyond belief that it's allowed. BH should say he has 2 weeks to trim down and speed up and STOP the stupid penalties.
Re Jamie Shaul - well he was the FB for many years when we had the worst D in Club history. He's a great attacker and as you know I really like the kid. He's better on the wing I reckon where he doesn't have to make last-ditch tackles against big forwards etc
Watch some of the tries scored against us from 17-19 and you'll see what I mean.
GREAT player just not a FB for defensive reasons. I'd bulk him up more and get him on the wing or let him go to Wakefield.

Jake is the X factor and we are really MISSING him. Jake is the 6 we need and I wonder if Josh R can go home at the end of the season?

The guy is a absolute waste of space and has been for the past 2 seasons. I’m struggling to think of a worse prop in the league who constantly gets selected week in week out. There must be somebody in the Championship we could take a punt on, at least they would show some enthusiasm you’d like to think.

Hard to know where to start with that one, very painful to watch with so many errors across the park.

I see others got echoes of the ghost of Radders last night as well, five drives and a kick, very little on the edges. Good play for the first try but no concessions allowed for that given the sheer volume of possession we had in their red zone.

I'd like to see Fonua dropped after that performance, thought his errors, decision making and performance in general were that of a headless chicken (a completely unfit one), that being said, who could we bring in at centre? Scott is worse and I have seen little to suggest that he will ever be a Super League standard centre.

Confidence is severely lacking, this placid approach from Hodgson doesn't appear to be motivating the players and something will have to give. We badly miss Connor and Griffin on the edges and as for Monday I don't know what will be more depressing: the score or the attendance because that showing last night will certainly have scared a fair few off (and rightly so).