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Quote: Rugby Raider "Completely accept he may be more maturer now. Also the club should have made sure the contract was signed and that was also inexcusable. Cooke received a ban, but that only affected him and Rovers for several games.

Also agree that his skills and experience could benefit our performance and decision making. However, to me the financial implications of his 'no contract' situation still warrants a gesture from Cooke and an apology and offer of working for free for period of time would allow us to move on from the major blot on what was otherwise s fantastic playing career with Hull.'"

Fair enough.

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Quote: Rugby Raider "Just because it was several years ago, I still don't see why it is now ok for Cooke to come back. Many fans slate Garry Schofield for wanting to join Leeds 30 years ago, but at least we got the world record fee that he was worth at the time. He may have been anti-Hull in the press ever since, but that's only words and they have never hurt the club financially.'"


Has he? He's righly knocked Hull for their performances in recent seasons. He's also stated regularly that he wants Hull to do well and that after Leeds we are his second club.

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Quote: easthull fc fan "Cooke had not signed his then new contract although it was agreed by him his agent which was his father Roy, the only thing he did wrong was talk to a another club which he approached before the correct date, he was banned & fined which he served & kr payed, it was just bad as it was them he went to, & we never replaced him, still haven't to this day, he had some awful things said & done to him, the people who did these things are not fans they are total idiots!'"

I never had a problem with Cooke actually going to Rovers. It was well known that they were his childhood club and no one can begrudge a player wanting to play for the club that they used to support. He could have put in a transfer request and explained his reasons and I think after the service he had given Hull, most would have accepted his decision.

His approach to Rovers was rightly punished, however if he hadn't signed the Hull contract, he should never have accepted his pay from Hull for that period and that was also wrong.

All I am saying, if he does come back to Hull (and how likely and ironic would that be in the week leading up to this weeks Derby), then he has a chance to make a gesture to correct some of his past actions.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Has he? He's righly knocked Hull for their performances in recent seasons. He's also stated regularly that he wants Hull to do well and that after Leeds we are his second club.'"

Apologies if I've unfairly over generalised Schofield's previous comments about Hull.

I was just using him as an example of another ex-player who became unpopular following his departure, but because if his comments as opposed to Cookes actions, hadn't impacted the club financially.

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I'd be happy with Cooke as an assistant...but not to Radford, he should be shown the door and not be given any position at the club, not even as a water carrier.
He's done untold damage to the club already through his selfish personal ambition and inability to accept his own limitations, to keep him on in any capacity would just add insult to injury.
As much as our great start was good the last two games (despite the win last night) show we really aren't going to do anything under Radford's stewardship.
The sooner Pearson realoses this the better.

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Win against rovers and then we have wires at home .If we could squeeze out 2 wins then it may just turn our season round. Still on the fence regards radders but for me 2 big games coming up

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "I'd be happy with Cooke as an assistant...but not to Radford, he should be shown the door and not be given any position at the club, not even as a water carrier.
He's done untold damage to the club already through his selfish personal ambition and inability to accept his own limitations, to keep him on in any capacity would just add insult to injury.
As much as our great start was good the last two games (despite the win last night) show we really aren't going to do anything under Radford's stewardship.
The sooner Pearson realoses this the better.'"

I think we'll beat Rovers (although no guarantee) and with last night's result it will keep him safe for a further month.

Next up sees us play Warrington, Saints (a), Hudds, and Leeds (a). All very tough games and if all lost will probably force Pearson to call time on Radford. Otherwise, I can see his tenure plodding on throughout the season.

We should only make a change if we have an experienced coach lined up. We should be able to attract a better coach than Radford to the club. However, it wouldn't surprise me though if we started next season with McNamara in charge with Radford working as his No 2. If so, I'd be underwhelmed on both counts.

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Quote: hull2524 "Win against rovers and then we have wires at home .If we could squeeze out 2 wins then it may just turn our season round. Still on the fence regards radders but for me 2 big games coming up'"

Was about to comment, then changed my mind

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Quote: Rugby Raider "I think we'll beat Rovers (although no guarantee) and with last night's result it will keep him safe for a further month.

Next up sees us play Warrington, Saints (a), Hudds, and Leeds (a). All very tough games and if all lost will probably force Pearson to call time on Radford. Otherwise, I can see his tenure plodding on throughout the season.

We should only make a change if we have an experienced coach lined up. We should be able to attract a better coach than Radford to the club. However, it wouldn't surprise me though if we started next season with McNamara in charge with Radford working as his No 2. If so, I'd be underwhelmed on both counts.'"

I honestly believe we would be better without Radford even if we had no coach to come straight in.
However Pearson himself cannot even accept his own failings never mind that of the coach so i doubt his judgement.
That Pearson thought employing an unsuitable, unqualified, unskilled, talentless no-mark was going to be good for the club I'll never know.
A win against a shambolic KR won't change my mind a jot. I outlined what should be our target and I just cannot see that happening despite the quality of the squad.

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Not going to predict the outcome of the Rovers game as derbies are always unpredictable in my opinion.

Warrington on Easter Monday will be very tough as they have started strongly so we'll need to be at our very best for that one.

If we can come away from Easter with two points I'll be happy. Four points and I'll be ecstatic!

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "I honestly believe we would be better without Radford even if we had no coach to come straight in.
However Pearson himself cannot even accept his own failings never mind that of the coach so i doubt his judgement.
That Pearson thought employing an unsuitable, unqualified, unskilled, talentless no-mark was going to be good for the club I'll never know.
A win against a shambolic KR won't change my mind a jot. I outlined what should be our target and I just cannot see that happening despite the quality of the squad.'"


I normally share my views on Radford with you.

Unsuitable, unqualified I'll give you but unskilled talentless no mark is a bit harsh.

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Quote: Rugby Raider "I think we'll beat Rovers (although no guarantee) and with last night's result it will keep him safe for a further month.

Next up sees us play Warrington, Saints (a), Hudds, and Leeds (a). All very tough games and if all lost will probably force Pearson to call time on Radford. Otherwise, I can see his tenure plodding on throughout the season.

We should only make a change if we have an experienced coach lined up. We should be able to attract a better coach than Radford to the club. However, it wouldn't surprise me though if we started next season with McNamara in charge with Radford working as his No 2. If so, I'd be underwhelmed on both counts.'"


I sort of agree, but I still think there's a bigger picture to consider which is what Pearson's appetite/ambition is for the club after this season. Five years down the track and we're in roughly the same position as we were when he took over with Agar in charge and an underperforming side in the 6-9 bracket. Loads of cash wasted and potentially limited appetite to keep squad investment levels at this level with gates sub 10k. If he's a bit jaded with it all, thinking he'll not only keep Radford but add the incremental cost of McNamara might be stretching it.

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Although I don't think he's always got it right I do think AP has put plenty of investment into the club in a bid to try and improve our position and crowd numbers. This year it was clearly about investing in the squad.

I may be mistaken but I also believe Pearson said before the season started that he's aware that the main way to get fans back through the gates is to win matches. I reckon he'll be keeping a close eye on the crowd numbers and if we continue our inconsistent form he'll call time on Radford in a bid to get more people back through the gates.

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AP will have to decide in the near future regarding who's going to be the coach next year. I presume squad planning will already be under way, and who is the coach is integral to that.
I just think a change needs to be made. Whether that is the head coach or a new assistant, new impetus is needed.
Winning the odd derby and sneaking into the top eight is not good enough.
I suspect it won't be good enough for AP either.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "I sort of agree, but I still think there's a bigger picture to consider which is what Pearson's appetite/ambition is for the club after this season. Five years down the track and we're in roughly the same position as we were when he took over with Agar in charge and an underperforming side in the 6-9 bracket. Loads of cash wasted and potentially limited appetite to keep squad investment levels at this level with gates sub 10k. If he's a bit jaded with it all, thinking he'll not only keep Radford but add the incremental cost of McNamara might be stretching it.'"

Yes it will be interesting to see how Pearson views his time at the end of the season.

Obviously the season has to still run its course and hopefully we'll improve to justify his current strategy of Radford leading a Hull based strategy. An indifferent mid table or lower finish, may result into him considering his options.

Overall, I have always liked Pearson and admire his investment and backing of Hull. I think his Coaching decisions have restricted his ambition. I think he has always appointed upon his best instincts at the time and also supported his coaches despite fan opposition. In his defence, I'm sure he'd cite McDerrmott, Wane, Cunningham and Paul Anderson as former players turned coaches who have been successful. However,, I think not recruiting an experienced coach has been his biggest limiting factor. At some point this year he needs to address this and then he should see a better return on and off the pitch that his investment deserves.

I can see him move for McNamara on the belief he is more experienced, but retain Radford citing perhaps it was too early. I doubt Radford is on a high salary compared with other coaches, so may be accommodated still as a No 2. As I said, this is not a combination I would welcome, but can imagine that it is something that we could end up with, as opposed to going for a clean start with an experienced coach.

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