Ellis as always was tough as teak in defence and slightly limited in attack. Pryce had one of his (many) keep out of the way games. Paea, flat track bully. Mark Minichiello I presume played with an injury when he shouldn't have.

Westerman.....what a shocker. I honestly believe the best thing that could happen to him is to go back to Cas under Daryl Powell.

Most of all though, for all the effort and the go forward, the lack of genuine quality in the back line is crippling for you. Hull attack for ages and never look like getting anything, Leeds attack for one set and it's panic stations.

The difference can be summed up in one word and it isn't coaching....it's quality.

Thompson was almost as bad.

Can't disagree with that. No threat at all in the outside backs. Thank christ briscoe wasn't playing. At least we only have 12 monre month of yeaman and our only back with pace is being sold off to warrington

never known westerman drop that many passes,

Our backline is embarrassing

If yeaman is our first choice centre next year it shows radford clearly has his favourite. Back up a best next year.

Michaels may have had a good game in defence but is another who offers little going forward

Sa is done imo. Biscuit bones. Need to cut our losses

Talanoa. Better in centre, wasted on the wing

Naughton, has pace but a bit lightweight still lots of potential

Lineham, like you said, our only strike player and he has been sold off


Who we bring in will be crucial, we need to brick poop houses in the centres

Should be looking to bring Lancaster through for next season

fair call

How many does he usually drop ?

Never fails to hurt my sides reading the optimism just shatter in your match threads. Im starting to genuinely think you'll never ever win at Wembley Ahhh well, sure Pearson will be in HDM soon in regards to it being your trophy next year! Ta ta.

I do think this has been a good yardstick for us.

Big game. Leeds declared by many to be past their best. Home advantage, and material injury advantage. Good crowd, buoyed up.

The reality is that we played with more visible energy and intensity than them, some cracking efforts in defence. But in every other area they did a comprehensive job on us. Played the conditions better, more structure in attack, threats across the back line, control of the ball. Sure we had chances, but Leeds weren't pressured at any point in the game. They still have the likes of Cuthbertson, Briscoe, McGuire to return. Really sobering game.

Bad luck.

Yes, Lineham really ripped into Leeds tonight, and if you think he is is your only back with pace then you really do have a problem. The majority of his tries are close range efforts, and has,nt replicated that good season he had with Crookes. Overrated imo and a good piece of business by the Hull Board and will be even more bang average in a vegatating Wire team.

Well I guess that is that done for another year. I had no real belief that we would go through, right from the moment the draw was made (partly a result of my inbuilt cynicism when it comes to Fc). Another of our bad nights where the body is willing but the brain is weak. Another night to add to a long list I've seen in my time.

As far as the overall competition goes, I think if our nearest & dearest can avoid Leeds in the upcoming draw then I fancy them to make a return to Wembley after a long absence.

If I had to take a punt right now, based on nothing other than gut feeling, I would predict a Leeds-rovers final (which will go down a storm 'round these parts) with Leeds retaining the trophy. They seem to be on a mission to send Sinfield & Peacock on their way with another couple of winner's medals to add to their already impressive collection.

Just a hunch, nothing more. Here's hoping one of the others can put a spanner in the works, for the sake of all our sanity's, or else 2015 could be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

Ellis was one of the best players on the field and that's from a neutral.