Feel free to quote all those posts blaming the ref for our poor attack. Should be easy enough if I say it every week.

The refs in SL are generally crap, and I comment on that pretty much every week because pretty much every week they're crap. If you seriously believe that we got an even hand with the lousy decisions tonight then you might want to watch it back again.

And finally, I said that our lack of PTBs in their 20 had a lot to do with Thaler - not our misfiring attack. Having one of our halves do nothing of any note all game would probably explain that quite handily.

We do turn the ball over more than we should, but another big problem is poor 6th tackle plays. We just don't build pressure. Like tonight, where Catalan forced all those dropouts and we managed just two (IIRC).

He was possibly better than last week, TBH.

50+ years a Hull FC fan and didnt go tonight so feeling a little bit 'ashamed'.

Watched the game on Sky and yes - our attack is poor- and yes - Catalan forced 10 goal line drop outs - but - our defence was just outstanding and the commitment from 1 to 17 was there to see.

Can we win at Huddersfield? Wigan showed that if you can stop the Giants A game they have no plan B.

If we produce a similar performance to tonight we still might not win but we would end the season with some pride and credibilitty restored.

You moan about refs every week.



Of course we did. Every week you seem to think we get a bum deal from the refs. This simply can't be the case unless someone at the RFL has decided that they'll always favour the opposition in our matches.



Whatever you said, it clearly wasn't anything to do with Thaler. Our own shortcomings led to our lack of possession and territory.

Solid display by the boys tonight in poor conditions. Defensively very sound.

Thought Westerman was very good tonight.

To say how dire the conditions were, that was a very handy performance and win. Towering defence. Well done lads. Privilege to applaud Menzies from the pitch too. Really good night.

I think I just said that, didn't I? Except I must have forgot to do that at Wembley. Or last week. And thinking about it I don't do it so much when I'm listening to the radio as I can't actually see what's going on. But nevermind - if you say it's so then it must be so.


Actually not the case. A ref will often be poor for both sides and we might get the worst of it due to circumstances we should be controlling.

Is this where I should start pretending that you always support the refs no matter how crap they are? That's how this type of 'argument' is supposed to progress, isn't it? Unproven claims and false dichotomies?


So when Thaler gave a penalty for interference when the Catalan player threw himself to the ground with no Hull player within 2 feet of him, that was our own fault?

Righto.

I think we all know the area we need to improve in the off season , Defense again wins us the game .

I don't 'support' refs, I simply accept that they do a very difficult job, and that most fans' views of a referee's performance are coloured by the team they support. You are a particularly pertinent example of this. You and my dad, who is exactly the same.



Of course not, silly. But there were plenty of occasions where we could/should have been penalised but weren't. The same for them. If you took your black and white specs off and watched again, you'd see that this was the case.

.... and another match when he was never tackled.

After watching tonight we need to play whiting at Loose forward, his ball handling skills are far superior to westermans and more likely to have ellis going through gaps offf whitings offloads

Great team performance tonight and defence was excellent. Short kicking game continues to be poor though

Your defence cant be faulted, although it kind of ruined the game to watch.. Catalans had the ball most of the time but I already knew they wouldnt get over the damn line no matter how many sets they had. On the other hand Catalans offered nothing going forward near your line and youll need the same effort next week whoever you get

He actually made a few decent tackles.