Chris McKenna was a solid player but no way would you have ever expected him to get selected for Australia.

I used him to highlight how weak Australia were at around the time Waterhouse won his test caps, I mean on that tour Darren Smith played for the Kangaroos even though he had just retired.

McKenna was a good centre but not in the same class as those who went before and since in the green and gold. Don't think HF was bagging him as such just pointing out that Australia had a weaker side back then.

waterhouse isnt the same player he was back 5 or so years ago but hes still playing decent in the nrl and i would love him at hull will go really well over here, look at ogre he last played rep footy years ago and wasnt the same player he was when younger but hes been amazing so far for us. we really do need 2 forwards now ideally a prop and backrower

Think 1 forward be enough and give the younger lads a go

Waterhouse will suit Wire to a tee, hit the line look for the supporting man and get the offload out in fact he'll probably do a better job than Louis Anderson rumoured to Catalans.

Louis is a hard hitting rower who again will suit Catalans very physical style.

I'll concede of the earlier comment on Seymour too, again a player that possibly at another club wouldn't suit them but a club like Hull crying out for a half back he'll probably do well, horses for courses and that.

but how do you know that the younger lads are good enough for this level or ready enough?
fitz and lauaki will leave a big gap in the forwards ecpcially fitz so for me 2 new forwards preferable young ideally watts and flanagan would be good

Still wouldn't go for Waterhouse, there is much better players in the NRL who, may be tempted over. Such as the Heighington (spelling?) rumour, I'm sure someone said he's available/looking to come over.

Seriously what is the big deal with Flanagan? Is it because he's English and played in the NRL?!

hes very young, english, a backrower, 1 of the better occ backrowers and has plenty of potentail and the fact that when hes played for wests he hasnt looked out of place at all and the couple of years down under would of done him the world of good. if there s better english backrower occ then let me know im just suggesting players ffs

waterhouse will be 1 of the best forwards over here next year still a good player that will suit the way wire play

You do a bit more than just suggesting him, you seem to mention him in very other post. Its an unhealthy obsession

What he said.

i mention him when i talk about potentail recruitment for next season and how our squad is lineing up for next season like i say if you have better suggestions then let me know instead of talking crap about obsessions. i mentioned brett seymour alot well before he was rumoured and signed look at posts from the rumours page mounths ago and i got the same abuse if you like about having an obsession with him aswell and would you know it we went and signed and now everyone highly regards him ect.

I reckon its down to you mentioning Seymour that we signed him. Would you mind mentioning Benji Marshall a bit.

Seriously though mate, once is enough. We know you like him

Go on.....see how long you go go without saying the 'F' word.....we'll be watching!

Might be reading too much into it, but Craig Murdock was asked tonight whether he thought Lauaki would be here next year and he said he didn't think both Moa and Lauaki would be - would be one or the other. So maybe if we don't agree terms with Moa, we'd keep Lauaki?

Also Agar said he'd like to think Richard Horne will stay.