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Quote: Standee "Indeed, imagine HKR need £1m to stay afloat, but City are close to being promoted and they need a £15m injection in the January window.

What will AA's priority be then?'"


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I think the two clubs should merge. Twice a year we get a larger than average crowd that puts up the SL's figures but if you add the Rovers and FC crowds together you're suddenly looking at really good attendances every week (even with a few not wanting to cross the river to the KC). In a few years there would be an entire generation that never knew the two separate clubs and would bleed black, red and white if you cut them. Forget all this pettiness between the boards and supporters and concentrate on creating the best team in the league, whilst making room for another club to join - say, from France or Cumbria.

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Quote: downtheante "I think the two clubs should merge. Twice a year we get a larger than average crowd that puts up the SL's figures but if you add the Rovers and FC crowds together you're suddenly looking at really good attendances every week (even with a few not wanting to cross the river to the KC). In a few years there would be an entire generation that never knew the two separate clubs and would bleed black, red and white if you cut them. Forget all this pettiness between the boards and supporters and concentrate on creating the best team in the league, whilst making room for another club to join - say, from France or Cumbria.'"


no, no and thrice no.

I we ever even considered a merger with KR than I know many people who would walk away from the sport, fod good.

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Quote: Neil HFC "Get that chip off your shoulder, people were talking about him and his infamous radio humberside interview (where he statesd the only way forward for rugby was to merge Hull & Rovers) well before it was made public he had invested in Rovers.

Most people dont trust him on the basis of that interview. The fact he's chosen to (apparently) favour one team over the other (in direct contravention of something else he said in the interview) further reinforces that view. But you stick you your small minded view of "if it favours rovers FC fans must hate it for soley that reason and no other" if you want to.'"


Don't know why your bothering they will always carry on like that.

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Quote: downtheante "I think the two clubs should merge. Twice a year we get a larger than average crowd that puts up the SL's figures but if you add the Rovers and FC crowds together you're suddenly looking at really good attendances every week (even with a few not wanting to cross the river to the KC). In a few years there would be an entire generation that never knew the two separate clubs and would bleed black, red and white if you cut them. Forget all this pettiness between the boards and supporters and concentrate on creating the best team in the league, whilst making room for another club to join - say, from France or Cumbria.'"


I doubt you'd get either Clubs fans agreeing with this let alone the boards of each club

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Quote: Standee "no, no and thrice no.

I we ever even considered a merger with KR than I know many people who would walk away from the sport, fod good.'"

They say that but look how quickly we adopted the Sharks theme as supporters. Just a rebranding that takes the emphasis away from which club plays the biggest role would quickly change things. If people love live RL in Hull (which I'm assured they do) then they'd go to the KC to watch it because there wouldn't be anywhere else.

And I just can't see how Rovers can continue indefinitely on the gates they get with the facilities they offer both home and away supporters.

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Quote: Standee "franchising was brought in to try and avoid the reliance single investors, £1m won't make a massive difference to KR, it certainly wont increase your fan base above the 10,000 break even that you are still struggling to attract.'"


Does a £1m loan not now push the 10,000 'break even figure up? also how would the £6.5m loan from Europe affect this?
Will Rovers need to hit say 12,000 to break even, or more??

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Quote: downtheante "I think the two clubs should merge. Twice a year we get a larger than average crowd that puts up the SL's figures but if you add the Rovers and FC crowds together you're suddenly looking at really good attendances every week (even with a few not wanting to cross the river to the KC). In a few years there would be an entire generation that never knew the two separate clubs and would bleed black, red and white if you cut them. Forget all this pettiness between the boards and supporters and concentrate on creating the best team in the league, whilst making room for another club to join - say, from France or Cumbria.'"


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I could of course ban you from this forum for a while to think about what you're doing, but I doubt it will have any effect icon_wink.gif

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Quote: FC Wembley 08 "Does a £1m loan not now push the 10,000 'break even figure up? also how would the £6.5m loan from Europe affect this?
Will Rovers need to hit say 12,000 to break even, or more??'"


No idea, a £1m cash injection may even affect the eligibility of the club to recieve the loans from other sources, if I were HCC I'd be asking for my loan money back.

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Quote: jacko1 "I doubt you'd get either Clubs fans agreeing with this let alone the boards of each club'"

I'm pretty sure you're right, but I think people ought to take a logical stance on this and move on from wha,t in the end, is only history. As Alan Bennett said "history is just one fooking thing after another". Why can't this be just one of those things. After all, we're not called Hull White Star anymore but I don't hear of many people arguing to bring that back (as a cheeky example) because, frankly, none of us remember those times.

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Quote: downtheante "They say that but look how quickly we adopted the Sharks theme as supporters. Just a rebranding that takes the emphasis away from which club plays the biggest role would quickly change things. If people love live RL in Hull (which I'm assured they do) then they'd go to the KC to watch it because there wouldn't be anywhere else.

And I just can't see how Rovers can continue indefinitely on the gates they get with the facilities they offer both home and away supporters.'"


You cannot compare the 2 situations.. AT ALL..

I WILL NOT go to a merged Hull team. I would either, as Standee has pointed out, walk away from the game or travel to Cas when i can and support them...

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Quote: downtheante "They say that but look how quickly we adopted the Sharks theme as supporters. Just a rebranding that takes the emphasis away from which club plays the biggest role would quickly change things. If people love live RL in Hull (which I'm assured they do) then they'd go to the KC to watch it because there wouldn't be anywhere else.

And I just can't see how Rovers can continue indefinitely on the gates they get with the facilities they offer both home and away supporters.'"


I would much rather go watch Cas. icon_wave.gif

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Quote: HullFC50 "Has to be some ulterior motive here, the guy gives Rovers £1 million, this even before he has had a meeting with HCC council about buying the KC. If the sale doesn't go ahead and he builds his dream stadium at Melton will he just write off the million, can't see it myself. Just hope he leaves our club alone.'"


I think the old boy might just be hedging his bets here. How about the deal for the KC falls through ? Allam then turns his attention to Craven Park. He's ingratiated himself into Rovers good books with a no strings cool £1M gift. How about he re-develops Craven Park and moves City there ?? The site already has a stadium built on it. He buys the lease from the council on the understanding he'll develop the surrounding land like he promised at Melton. Spends a few £M on bringing CP up to Premier League scratch, hey presto, he ends up with his own stadium at what I would expect to be less cost than the either building new at Melton or buying the KC from the council.

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Quote: downtheante "I'm pretty sure you're right, but I think people ought to take a logical stance on this and move on from wha,t in the end, is only history. As Alan Bennett said "history is just one fooking thing after another". Why can't this be just one of those things. After all, we're not called Hull White Star anymore but I don't hear of many people arguing to bring that back (as a cheeky example) because, frankly, none of us remember those times.'"


Yeah, that's right, bring back David Lloyd and Peter Walsh cos that's only history.

And Alan Bennett is a die hard black and white. HATES Rovers icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Chris71 "Have to disagree with you on this point. What this sport needs to be successful is a strong & professional organisation not the current idiots at Red Hall. One that is more proactive in promoting itself to an audience it can geniunely attract and retain not wasting time, money and resources on pipe dreams of making it a big concern in other countries.

Clubs also need to be self sustainable and not reliant on one or more backers. RL is not a majority sport in the UK and has to work harder to promote/sell itself. The day when money men rule the world of RL will be the death of it, you only have to look at what happened to Ice Hockey in the UK when Heineken pulled out. The BIHA ran the sport into the ground then the money men such as Sir John Hall thought he could do better or make a killing, the latter he did by killing off the most successful club ever in Durham Wasps. Since then the top flight in UK Ice Hockey has had more failed leagues aswel as teams in a short space of time then its entire history as money men think they know best.

Leeds and Hull FC are doing it right by making sure their clubs are self sufficient any other way is just fool hardy as sugar daddys can lose interest or need to relocate their funds elsewhere particularly in todays financial climate.'"


Unfortunately Money Men do rule RL already. RL is in no different a position now then the position of Ice Hockey you quoted. If Murdoch decides to pull the sky plug RL is dead in the water. As much as we like to think there is an element of self sufficiency if sky decide to half there investment all clubs would go to the wall.

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