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| Quote: rowdellhead "everyone is entitled to their own opinion of Agar but for me personally he over stepped the mark doing what he did to Sammy, there is showing passion and then there is what Agar is doing caught live on national tv verbally bashing one of his own players. Totally wrong saying "F-off sammy gettin him off", you can now all judge for yourselves if he was right or wrong.
I have uploaded the said incident on to that well known video site just search "Agar verbal bashing of Sammy Moa "'"
Can you link it? I assume if it is your video it is permissable?
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| against AUP to link video links just search for my channel "rowdellhead99" its should be on there
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| Quote: Digby "Can you link it? I assume if it is your video it is permissable?'"
Not unless he took the footage himself it isn't.
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| Quote: Kosh "Not unless he took the footage himself it isn't.'"
If someone had recorded the big screen?
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| Quote: garry brindley "I think if Rich handed in his resignation and fecked off back to whatever cave in Featherstone that he crawled out of in the first place, the vast majority of people on here would be happy to conclude that he'd done the right thing for once.'"
There are no need for personal attacks, slate the guy for the job he does or doesn't do but don't be nasty, there is no need. Whether it's good enough or not he is doing his best.
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| Quote: PAUL M "There are no need for personal attacks, slate the guy for the job he does or doesn't do but don't be nasty, there is no need. Whether it's good enough or not he is doing his best.'"
Fair enough I've already taken that on board. I really do fail to see what 'trying one's best' has to do with anything though.
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| Quote: garry brindley "Fair enough I've already taken that on board. I really do fail to see what 'trying one's best' has to do with anything though.'"
Don't you think it's a worse reflection on a person if they fail because of lack of effort rather than lack of ability?
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| Quote: Rock God X "Don't you think it's a worse reflection on a person if they fail because of lack of effort rather than lack of ability?'"
I see what your saying but IMO it's irrelevant either way. Whether it's down to lack of ability or lack of effort, he's failing and doesn't deserve to be in the privileged highly paid job that he is in. I don't feel kindly about many people in that kind of position.
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| Quote: garry brindley "I see what your saying but IMO it's irrelevant either way. Whether it's down to lack of ability or lack of effort, he's failing and doesn't deserve to be in the privileged highly paid job that he is in. I don't feel kindly about many people in that kind of position.'"
He certainly doesn't warrant the position he's in, but I still don't see why that you make you think unkindly of him. He took a job, he's trying his best to do that job, but he's not up to the required standard. The fact that he hasn't been removed from that position is not his fault. I think it's a lot to expect a person to give up a job just because they're struggling when they have a mortgage to pay and a family to feed.
If you were promoted beyond your capabilities could you be 100% sure that you would:
a) realise you were out of your depth, and,
b) give up the job knowing you faced an uncertain future without it?
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| All fair points again. I do actually think Agar does now realise he's out of his depth but as you say you can't blame him for looking after number one, doesn't mean I have to like it though. ATEOTD I've had 3 years of the team underperforming under him and being frequently perplexed by his bizarre tactical decisions and torrent of excuses, not to mention cringing everytime he appears on tv or radio to represent our club. Given all that, I don't think it's unreasonable that I have some ill feeling towards the bloke, if you and others are able to remain completely objective then fair play to you and I realise that's the only kind of criticism that's going to have any influence on getting him out of his job.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Don't you think it's a worse reflection on a person if they fail because of lack of effort rather than lack of ability?'"
Either way they're still a failure
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| We played Featherstone(16s) today at home, even the Featherstone lot said Agar should be sacked
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| Quote: PAUL M "There are no need for personal attacks, slate the guy for the job he does or doesn't do but don't be nasty, there is no need. Whether it's good enough or not he is doing his best.'"
I agree Paul but the longer he stays the more frustrated fans will get and it will become personal...It was certainly personal this morning when our touchline started to discuss him, Agar is a really nice guy but for his own good I hope he goes sooner than later.
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| Quote: garry brindley "Fair enough I've already taken that on board. I really do fail to see what 'trying one's best' has to do with anything though.'"
Well if he might not be good enough but he can only do his best. For that reason discussing why he isn't good enough is fine, abusing him isn't.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Well if he might not be good enough but he can only do his best. For that reason discussing why he isn't good enough is fine, abusing him isn't.'"
Good point Paul, we should not get personal.
I do not like the idea of boycotts, it is maybe the only way the board may listen to fans but it could do untold damage. I much prefer the dignified protest for the moment at least and await the pressure from within to mount.
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