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[quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
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| Quote: cod'ead "So you would prefer him to ignore a penalisable offence, just in case we scored a try?'"
I'd prefer him to take whatever action was most beneficial to the team against which the offence was committed.
Quote: cod'ead "But then award a penalty from where play was stopped'"
No because that's ridiculous.
Quote: cod'ead "or should he just ignore the offence totally?'"
If not ignoring the offence means rewarding the offending team then yes, ignore away.
Quote: cod'ead "As I said before, you can't have the penny and the bun. Nor can you ignore the fact that the laws of the glame clearly state
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I have no issue with that. The issue I have is with giving a penalty when it was not necessary. As you stated previously, he has the power to cite the incident anyway, without having to put it 'on report', so why the need to stop the game at all if doing so means penalising the victims?
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| Quote: Leggysfaithful "Whiting needs to be signed up and sharpish! We fans can't be the only people who see his worth, so if we don't do the right thing and tie him down then I reckon a lot of super league teams would snap him up without thinking twice! 3 year deal please FC!!'"
Totally agree! I've been saying this for ages. He has more than earned a long term deal. Why should a player of his quality not have the security of a long deal. I would give him a three or four year contract. No hesitation. |
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| Quote: trys'r'us "I'd prefer him to take whatever action was most beneficial to the team against which the offence was committed.
No because that's ridiculous.
If not ignoring the offence means rewarding the offending team then yes, ignore away.
I have no issue with that. The issue I have is with giving a penalty when it was not necessary. As you stated previously, he has the power to cite the incident anyway, without having to put it 'on report', so why the need to stop the game at all if doing so means penalising the victims?'"
So, you do want the penny and the bun? |
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| Quote: cod'ead "So, you do want the penny and the bun?'"
If the penny is Newton being put on report, and the bun is playing on from where the referee allowed play to finish (i.e. after the tackle), then I'd be happy with the bun. The penny means nothing to Hull FC or that game in general.
If you can tell me how Hull received any benefit from Newton being put on report, then I'll accept your argument. The ref did not need to give a penalty. |
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| Quote: Robbo4 "Has always been the wifes favourite player which she pointed out to his late Grandfather when we met him at the train station on the way to the CC final in Cardiff. Seems a daft thing to say but he is one of the most valuable players in our squad. He offers so much utility value in a variety of positions that he just has to be in the team somehow. I still find it difficult to decide just what his best position is though as he is competant in so many roles. To top it all off he is a great pro and great bloke to go with it. I think I'm welling up ![]()
good post!my missus too rates whiting as her favourite player and he seems to come up with the right plays nearly every time.all ahil the 'stilts' 
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| Quote: cod'ead "So you would prefer him to ignore a penalisable offence, just in case we scored a try? But then award a penalty from where play was stopped or should he just ignore the offence totally?
As I said before, you can't have the penny and the bun. Nor can you ignore the fact that the laws of the glame clearly state
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IF...theoretically,a team has broken through fromtheir own half and are seemingly about to score,when a lagging defender punches an opposition player spark out!should the play be brought back to the mark where the offence occurs if the try is prevented on the line????if so,then surely this is an incentive to do something illegal to bring back play and prevent a try 
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| Quote: getemonside "IF...theoretically,a team has broken through fromtheir own half and are seemingly about to score,when a lagging defender punches an opposition player spark out!should the play be brought back to the mark where the offence occurs if the try is prevented on the line????if so,then surely this is an incentive to do something illegal to bring back play and prevent a try ![]()
This is my point exactly. If the rule is infact what cod'ed says it is, then it needs changing as it basically means an offending team gains an advantage for blatantly breaking the rules, and an innocent team gets robbed.
It really is ridiculous and I can't believe cod'ed is trying to defend it as wanting too much from the ref.
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[quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
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| Quote: cod'ead "So, you do want the penny and the bun?'"
No. I thought I made it fairly clear. I want the one that's most advantageous to the offended-against team. Obviously. If I was deserving of the bun and only got a penny, I'd be fuc[sizek[/sizeing furious and would want to know why the c[sizeu[/sizent of a ref had seen fit to reward the team that committed the offence by imposing the least effective penalty. |
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| Quote: trys'r'us "No. I thought I made it fairly clear. I want the one that's most advantageous to the offended-against team. Obviously. If I was deserving of the bun and only got a penny, I'd be fuc[sizek[/sizeing furious and would want to know why the c[sizeu[/sizent of a ref had seen fit to reward the team that committed the offence by imposing the least effective penalty.'"
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Whiting & Fitz have been our two stand out players so far this season and it is nice to see Rich get his plaudits. A lot of people on here have never given him the credit he deserves, he is just one of those players who seems to be in the right place at the right time.
As for the decision to bring play back to the incident on Tansey i felt it was ridiculous at the time and still do, if it is in the rules and i am pretty sure Codead is right then the rules need looking at. It only takes a cynical coach to start taking advantage of a rule like that for it to become a complete farce.
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[quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
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| Quote: Big Dave T "
The dangers of posting when not entirely sober, there. I'm genuinely surprised how well written that was considering the mitigating circumstances.
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| Quote: trys'r'us "The dangers of posting when not entirely sober, there. I'm genuinely surprised how well written that was considering the mitigating circumstances.'"
Maybe you should only post when drunk. Was better than usual!!  |
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[quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Maybe you should only post when drunk. Was better than usual!! ![]()
Judging by much of your postings, I'm guessing you took your own advice a long time ago.
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| Quote: trys'r'us "Judging by much of your postings, I'm guessing you took your own advice a long time ago. ![]()
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Also, if the ref wanted to put Newton on report he should have done so straight away. He was ready to blow up, saw that Whiting had made a break, and then started to run to catch up with play. If we had scored he would have given the try, so why bring play back for one outcome but not another? Why not just blow his whilstle straight away? Plus (and I may be mistaken) but I'm sure when Whiting turns around to see why everyone has stopped, you can hear the ref say, "no advantage," which is clearly a load of rubbish.
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