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| On my hols in Oz I had the pleasure of meeting Matty Head. We had a few beers and his tongue loosened. I wont betray what he said but one thing he did say.........Rich Agar is a damn good coach. With his experience I know who's view I'll take thanks.
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| Quote: denbo63 "On my hols in Oz I had the pleasure of meeting Matty Head. We had a few beers and his tongue loosened. I wont betray what he said but one thing he did say.........Rich Agar is a damn good coach. With his experience I know who's view I'll take thanks.'"
isn't he captian/coach in the lower leagues?
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| Well as a fan I am happy we have won 5 out of 8....however we lost 2 games which we really should have won, which would have put us up there.
I want to know what is going on with Agar & Hall..it must be personal
Why is Agar not dropping Briscoe,or changing him to centre, he has been pants most of the season
Why is he not resting/spelling Fitz
We had no backs on the bench last night
What kind of motivational talk does he give for away games
Agar is on a very thin ice for me now
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| Quote: Harrigan "Haha, seriously?
We have no one asking for McClennans head and we are only 2 wins off bottom
I'd cut agar some slack if he'd won us the last 2 grand finals
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| Quote: Digger_the_Dog "One look at the League table shows a marked improvement from last year. The Rugby at times looks very basic and lacking in ideas but you could say that for Bradford and even Leeds this year. Bradford are also having a much improved season as far as the table goes. Only one side is showing class week in week out and that is Wigan. Wire and Hudds are looking quite good but every other side is inconsistent.
Nothing is won in March and whilst it is frustrating the times I have seen you play it is obvious there is improvement to come. If and when that comes (which I suppose is where you lot are divided) Hull could finish top 3 pretty easily because you are 5th and have not even played that well yet!!
I would not be as harsh as to sack a bloke who is making progress. Sometimes it aint pretty but nights like tonight happen. Lynne will learn a lot from tonight, as well a few others. The Hall thing is puzzling but we do not see them on the training ground. I would trust for a little longer if I was a Hull fan to be honest.'"
We've won the same number of games as we had at this time last season and our form is heading in the same direction. We've lost to the only 2 teams we "doubled" last year and our highly paid team of superstars look like they haven't got a clue. If that's progress then god help us
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| Quote: Digger_the_Dog "Why does it have to be an Aussie who is at the cutting edge of the game?
There are just as many rubbish coaches in Australia as there are in the UK you know!!
If they are that good in Australia they will stay there unless they are drawn by money and for me money is not a good reason for someone to be attracted to a job. The challenge and prestige of a job like Hull should be a bigger factor.'"
Because the "up and coming" british coaches have proven they're not up to it. The fact that agar, macnamara and mcdermott are even mentioned as England coach says it all
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| I think we are a long way off the taxi call, not that i agree with myself, but Rule will ride this one out a bit longer, we have Dennis in reserve so the options are apparent.
However Good Friday becons, if the slide continues and belive me we are sliding, then the beginning of the end should start.
The players were naff last night, the coaching descissions worse and no emotion, when was the last time you saw Agar bellowing instructions down the mouth piece, more like ordering his Pizza to collect on the way home.
I'm not looking for a hair dryer coach, but i don't see any head to head type descissions with Dennis on match days, we can't seem to adapt when the game plan fails, or if we do, it's far to late, basic stuff realy,you have to point the finger at the coaches.
At this point in the season we should be seeing the team gel and move forward, we have'nt had any realy major injuries (i'm touching wood) so why are we not seeing this, we are a better team than good game bad game team we are seeing, for me that sits firmly at the coaches door.
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| Agar is quite clearly clueless. Where is the gameplan? Where is the motivation?
Personally I'd have fired him mid season last year but with the recruitment and removal of dead wood I thought he should be given a second chance. However, it is clear that he's just not up to it and should be removed as soon as possible to stop another season going down the toilet.
As for even discussing renewal of his contract, that would be comercial suicide!
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| Talking of contracts, we have started to talk to a number of players i understand.
Contract talks, poor perfomance, does that ring a cord, either those spoken too think it's in the bag or those that haven't are 'P'd off, something is wrong, deeply wrong in my oppinion.
Friday has to be a new start, one way or another.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "One result and you want rid? It's you who might be the fool! I'm totally neutral on this issue! You need to get a grip. you look like a massive prick to be honest'"
It's not just one result though is it?
Agar's tenure has been littered with poor performances. Catalans at home and Wigan, Bradford and Rovers away in 2008. Most of 2009, especially Cas and Leeds away, Huddersfield at home and Salford in the Cup. Three times already this season.
We will not win every game but we are regularly not even competing.
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| Quote: Harrigan "IMO you will beat Hull KR with a bit to spare next week. They arent playing that well at the moment and struggled to beat us last week. The big test of where you are will be the 2 weeks against us when we have the majority of our players back (hopefully) minus Donald and Watkins.'"
I think the two Leeds games are key for Agar now, especially if we lose twice over Easter which looks likely.
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| I think Agar should be greatly looked at by the board come full time Easter Monday. Its two huge games and will be interesting to see the player responses to last night and Good Friday. He is always slated on motivation and rightly so and Easter needs motivation more than anything. Heres to a interesting Easter.
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| Quote: forevafaithful "what a load of tosh...sack agar now...yeah so it was him who gave away the 15 penalties??? was it agar that for the first time yeaman actually makes a pass agar made it go into touch????was it agar that couldnt keep broughton from scoring twice in the same place???.......NAHHHHHHHHH it was the pi$$ poor effort from the players who probably thought they could just turn up and win.......stop talking shiiite and support your team through thick and thin...agar will stay and you know it ....SIMPLES'"
No it wasnt, but in my opinion with the right attitude towards the game we could have still walked away with a win yesterday despite what you mentioned above, of course the coach cant be held responsable for individual errors but the general lack of ideas and negitivety that has been on show throughout Agars time in charge was there to see, even our good home form is simply based on grinding out results, thats what we do, we dont play particularly well even when we win, for what its worth I think Agar would be a good coach for a side who lacked the resources and players that the better teams have but we dont fall into this category he is not the right man for the job, the resources he has we should be able to out play teams especially the likes of Crusaders and Salford but all we do is go up the middle and hope for the best with no flair or plan B, and some of the comments he makes publically are questionable to say the least, I know it gets brought up often and is maybe blown out of proportion but his comments about not really watching or concenrating on others teams are laughable when you consider our past two away games the coaches clearly pin pointed what they think are weaknesses in our side and done a job on us.
On a side note aswell his vendetta against Craig Hall is simply pathetic, ok he had a poor game against Wigan (all be it out of position) and cant have any arguments about being dropped, but Yeaman and Briscoe performed just as poor last night and will keep there places, the players must pick up on this and it cant be good for morale.
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| Are people seriously saying that 5 from 8 wouldn't have been seen as good enough at the start of the season?
It is a very tight league nowadays.
Seems like wins are almost as bad as losses for Agar, as they just raise expectations to unrealistic levels and make losses, when they do inevitably occur, seem like disasters. Hull were poor last night, but they have been excellent in other games by most accounts.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Are people seriously saying that 5 from 8 wouldn't have been seen as good enough at the start of the season?
It is a very tight league nowadays.
Seems like wins are almost as bad as losses for Agar, as they just raise expectations to unrealistic levels and make losses, when they do inevitably occur, seem like disasters. Hull were poor last night, but they have been excellent in other games by most accounts.'"
Re you seriously saying that losses to the 13th and 14th placed teams from last season are acceptable? Or the hammering at wigan?
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