He certainly hasn't looked dangerous every time he gets the ball.

We are lucky we have competition for places unlike previous seasons. If Hall was in and Whiting out we would be having the same discussion but in reverse.

Long may it continue as well

Will agree to disagree. Whiting would struggle to get a contract at a top club other than for cover and if Calderwood wasn't injured at the start of this term i dont think Whiting would have been in our 17 yet.

Some of the real RL genius players over the years have had woeful defence. I agree, Hall isn't the best but i've also seen enough of him since been loaned to Widnes to suggest that he is working hard to sort that out. Getting dropped for things that weren't your fault isn't going to help. I think there's more to it that simply his performance.

It apeared to me that Hall was made somewhat of a scapegoat by Agar and earlier to a degree by Peter Sharp.

Hall enjoyed his time at Widnes , playing in an attacking side certainly suited his style and he came back with renewed confidence.

He tried his best at when selected in that position by Agar but paid performances when it was not all his own fault.

However it would appear that some of you know exactly what happens at training sessions at Hull Kingston Rovers.

Some of the tries were his fault IMO, especially in the first half. But it would be wrong to single him out as other tries were the fault of others.

As for Whiting he has played pretty well in any position he's been asked to play this season (Crusaders apart) and therefore maybe it is his extra durability that has won him a place for this game. After all some appear to be saying that it is unfair to judge Hall playing out of position yet Whiting is clearly playing well enough in most positions he is asked to. Maybe the coach sees that flexibility as a plus to have in his team.

FWIW Hall will get more chances for sure but it is up to Hall himself to improve his defence to the extent that no one talks about it as a weakness for him any more.

Maybe not enough..hopefully if he gets a fair whack he can kick on, however his defence will have to improve as players like Senior will have a field day.

Or as with Tom Briscoe we work out how to give him better ball so that people talk about his 3 tries rather than his defensive errors.

Don't think our attacking play has been too bad this year as the points for column indicates. Better quality ball will help any back as you say. As for Briscoe he has much to work on. I said a couple of weeks ago he should be the back under most pressure to keep his place.

What annoys me about Hall is his jumping out of the line in defence either to intercept or tackle the receiver, most of the time his timing is off leaving an overlap for the opposition.

What like Yeaman?

is that not more down to our defensive pattern meaning our outside backs on both sides end up jumping out due to overlaps?

Dropping hall is the easy option for agar. He obviously doesn't rate him. For Hall's sake he needs to move on (unless we have a new coach by then) at the end of the season. Shame as he would be excellent if given a decent run in his preferred position.

radford was rubbish last Friday but I bet he doesn't drop him for moa