The trouble with Tickle's angled runs is that it's always the same one, the ball comes out to the right and he makes an angled run back towards the left. He did play 80 mins a lot which is probably why he dropped off tackles at times and gavce penalties away.

I like him as a player but I don't think he should be anywhere near a shoe in.

Spot on. Personally I'm a big fan of Burnett and think he's ready to make his mark this year.

Don't think he had an option to be honest as our numbers where low so was more forced into playing.

Far from a shoe in but i don't feel he has done much wrong to justifiy been dropped from a starting position.

I'm inclined to agree. He performed a lot better and consistently than most last season but was asked to do a lot due to our lack of options. I think, like the kicking duties, the place should be his to lose.

I am too but im not sure hes ready to start week in week out as he makes a few silly mistakes.

Would be a good bench player as hes a strong runner and would offer a lot of impact

Thing is, Burnett has great potential and should be replacing Tickle next season as a first pick 2nd rower. IMO we'll go with Fitz and Manu as 2 of the back 3 with Lauaki off the bench, then we have a choice between Tickle and Burnett. Unless Tickle can mix it up a bit and stop giving away stupid penalties, my personal view is that Burnett offers a bit more. I take your point on maybe not every week, but I'd like to see him get 15+ games this season in readiness for next year.

Hopefully Fitz will have a big effect on Burnett, great guy to learn from.

Another thing to look at is Tickle has kicked in the 2 warm up games and Fitz hasnt...i know Fitz is a superb kicker but cant see us going to Sts and using him as a kicker..whereas Tickle has kicked very well in pre-season...as for Burnett...a season learning off Fitz and he will be ready for 2011 where he may be replacing both Tickle and Fitz.

Personally can see Tickle having a big last season for us and him being spelled will be beneficial to us......overall Tickle ahead of Burnett all the time for me.

Fair enough, but Burnett won't be ready to step up unless he gets the gametime this year. And knowing what I know about Fitz and his preparation, I bet he practises his kicking. It's a nice discussion to be having, I suppose.

Apart from the ones Whiting kicked

Im not writing him off just pointing out a few problems i see in his game. The pre season games are the chance to show what you can do and make a mark for your position. Hes the 2nd rower who impressed me the least.

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