You're not a parent so no matter what experience you have you can't understand what a parent goes through. It's not a criticism it's just the way it is. Kids change you and your outlook on life, you won't feel the same way if you have not had your own kids.

Being kept in hospital for more than 24 hours is RIDDOR reportable, doesnt make a difference how you arrived.

As I posted I have seen a lot of deprivation, first hand, also I have done voluntary work/research with groups who encounter various degrees of suffering within society whilst I was studying.

This is not getting personal for me, however I suggest you read your posts, this may offer you an insight into the replies/reactions you get. I enjoy debating/discussing various topics with posters as the majority whether they agree or disagree appear to have the skills to debate/discuss, and know when to agree to disagree without it getting stupid.

again, I ask where you have seen it, it provides context.

You are unreal, I would have not had a problem with providing you with an answer,however it provides context for what ? my honesty ? your judgment?
This may come as a shock but your own opinions/feelings on what even constitues deprivation do not qualify you to access if some-one has seen deprivation first hand. Your opinions of all people living on 'sink estates'(your term) who all get pregnant etc, display nothing more to me than ignorance. You may have found a documentary interesting which was on Channel 4, the documentary involved a guy(Kevin McCloud I believe, living in the slums in India, a place full of depravation, however what shocked the him most was how organised and happy these people were.
I really have no desire to discuss this issue with you any-more.

I lived on Bransholme from the age of 14-24 so I totally agree and understand your post, I live down the road now Suton Park(Known affectinately as Branshome with double galzing ) purely as I considered the property as an investment opprotunity but still share your postcode HU7..sadly a lot of attitudes towards various aspect in society are snobbery and ignorance, the trouble is I should know better and just post my view and have done, but in my defence it is a topic I am passionate about. Apologise if I have bored the pants off people though with my rants

Try "North West Sutton"

Spot on Karen.

I'll start the day with an apology to anyone I've offended with my comments, it hasn't been my intention.

There are actually very few sink estates remaining in the UK, some areas of Glasgow are still as bad as ever, as are some inner city estates in London, a small part of Leeds and an equally small part of Sheffield, interestingly the thing that has helped us improve these areas has been, by and large, sport, or the EU. I tend to get angry when people start telling me text books and degrees are worth more than 8 years of working amongst social problems first hand, if you've ever been collecting rent in the Gorbals then you really HAVE seen a sink estate (well, it was at the time, but even that area has improved)

ANYWAY - Hudgell, desperate?, I think so!

Wonder if he'll be on the babys feet case this morning

thats what you think

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