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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"So only £600M for the stadium then, what about this mythical non depreciation you mentioned?'"
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Any new owner of the stadium will want maximum usage from it for a return. They would not have to go looking for a new customers for the August Bank holiday weekend as they already have one with the RFL.
Not sure why some are getting hot and bothered about this. It will remain a stadium for the foreseeable future. There will be contracts in place which will need to be honoured for its usage.
Finally, and probably most importantly, Wembley is a fantastic sports venue, however its lost its special feel since its been rebuilt. Its basically a big version of Arsenals ground and is not longer distinctive as the old stadium once was. Its become an events venue rather then a sporting one. The evidence of this is clear when you see the corporate seats near the players tunnel which are unoccupied until 5 minutes after kick off / half time. Its hardly a great advert for any sporting event there when the prime seats are empty are the beginning of the game.
Let the FA sell it and then build an 80k venue North of London which is far more accessble to the masses.
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Any new owner of the stadium will want maximum usage from it for a return. They would not have to go looking for a new customers for the August Bank holiday weekend as they already have one with the RFL.
Not sure why some are getting hot and bothered about this. It will remain a stadium for the foreseeable future. There will be contracts in place which will need to be honoured for its usage.
Finally, and probably most importantly, Wembley is a fantastic sports venue, however its lost its special feel since its been rebuilt. Its basically a big version of Arsenals ground and is not longer distinctive as the old stadium once was. Its become an events venue rather then a sporting one. The evidence of this is clear when you see the corporate seats near the players tunnel which are unoccupied until 5 minutes after kick off / half time. Its hardly a great advert for any sporting event there when the prime seats are empty are the beginning of the game.
Let the FA sell it and then build an 80k venue North of London which is far more accessble to the masses.
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| Quote Mild mannered Janitor="Mild mannered Janitor"Any new owner of the stadium will want maximum usage from it for a return. They would not have to go looking for a new customers for the August Bank holiday weekend as they already have one with the RFL.
Not sure why some are getting hot and bothered about this. It will remain a stadium for the foreseeable future. There will be contracts in place which will need to be honoured for its usage.
Finally, and probably most importantly, Wembley is a fantastic sports venue, however its lost its special feel since its been rebuilt. Its basically a big version of Arsenals ground and is not longer distinctive as the old stadium once was. Its become an events venue rather then a sporting one. The evidence of this is clear when you see the corporate seats near the players tunnel which are unoccupied until 5 minutes after kick off / half time. Its hardly a great advert for any sporting event there when the prime seats are empty are the beginning of the game.
Let the FA sell it and then build an 80k venue North of London which is far more accessble to the masses.'"
So long as the FA give ALL of the money back to HMRC, I agree, it was paid for by the people of the UK, It wont be available in August as Jacksonville will want to play pre-season games there. The FA, like the RFL, have lost control. No need for a new stadium IF it's sold, plenty of capacity at other grounds around the country. |
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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"So only £600M for the stadium then, what about this mythical non depreciation you mentioned?'"
So, you don't think land and peoperty values increase? |
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Always thought we should build Rl stadium for the national team and cup finals , Odsal is a perfect place a natural ampitheatre . The CC , GF and all England games, there would cost a lot of money but rather spend it in the north than have to go south where they have no interest in RL whatsoever.
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| Quote PCollinson1990="PCollinson1990"Quote PCollinson1990="knockersbumpMKII"So only £600M for the stadium then, what about this mythical non depreciation you mentioned?'"
So, you don't think land and peoperty values increase?'"
Problem was the new stadium went way way over budget and cost far more than its probable (or real) value. ATEOTD it will only be worth what someone is willing to pay in terms of a structure plus the value of the land it sits on.
The land will no doubt have gone up in value due to development in and around the area and will continue to do so but the value of the stadium will probably remain fairly static or indeed decrease due to limited use of facility and the running & upkeep costs associated with such.
The simple reason the FA will be looking to offload is that they simply can not afford to pay for it.
Wembley for me lost all its tradition and feel when they demolished the twin towers, that for me was a sign the FA didn't give a knack about history and tradition when they sold out the sole of the place. So no wonder they are willing to sell it now. |
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| Quote Chris71="Chris71"Problem was the new stadium went way way over budget and cost far more than its probable (or real) value. ATEOTD it will only be worth what someone is willing to pay in terms of a structure plus the value of the land it sits on.
The land will no doubt have gone up in value due to development in and around the area and will continue to do so but the value of the stadium will probably remain fairly static or indeed decrease due to limited use of facility and the running & upkeep costs associated with such.
The simple reason the FA will be looking to offload is that they simply can not afford to pay for it.
Wembley for me lost all its tradition and feel when they demolished the twin towers, that for me was a sign the FA didn't give a knack about history and tradition when they sold out the sole of the place. So no wonder they are willing to sell it now.'"
From what I have read, they can't realistically sell it. Would have to be signed off by the government. Can you imagine if a UK businessman tried to buy Soldier Field in Chicago... there would be riots! |
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| Quote PCollinson1990="PCollinson1990"So long as the FA give ALL of the money back to HMRC, I agree, it was paid for by the people of the UK, It wont be available in August as Jacksonville will want to play pre-season games there. The FA, like the RFL, have lost control. No need for a new stadium IF it's sold, plenty of capacity at other grounds around the country.'"
It wasn't paid for solely out of the UK tax system. Its not a government asset.
Do you really think Jascksonville will play all of their games at Wembley? The prospective buyer is a business man. Why cancel an event (CC Final) for this? To maximise income from US football, they would stage the games to coincide with TV viewing in the US = Sunday afternoon in US = evening UK. |
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The land will no doubt have gone up in value due to development in and around the area and will continue to do so but the value of the stadium will probably remain fairly static or indeed decrease due to limited use of facility and the running & upkeep costs associated with such.
The simple reason the FA will be looking to offload is that they simply can not afford to pay for it.
Wembley for me lost all its tradition and feel when they demolished the twin towers, that for me was a sign the FA didn't give a knack about history and tradition when they sold out the sole of the place. So no wonder they are willing to sell it now.'"
From what I have read, they can't realistically sell it. Would have to be signed off by the government. Can you imagine if a UK businessman tried to buy Soldier Field in Chicago... there would be riots!'"
The big difference is the Americans care about their history and traditions and although the totally rebuild it they preserved and kept the original exterior something the FA chose not to do. The difference with Soldier Field is it has always been owned by the Chicago Parks District and is all connected to the Lake Front area. Where as Wembley is just a soulless stadium with no other remains of history or the past or parkland and is owned by the FA not the local council or government. |
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