i think we lack skill in the three quarters, but we do have power - I can see us scoring a lot of powering over the line type tries, rather than free flowing, overlap creating tries

our pack is one of the best in SL,Think sneyd needs to kick on this year which I believe he will do, the days of having a specialist hooker sat on the bench may well be gone, saying that be would have been nice to see what Cunningham could have done for us,imo can see pryce leaving for pastures new before the seasons out, Bradford?. I like shaul, and naughton can cover him, fonah looks a handful,Binman is fine for me, logan looks very good but still a young un,then we have tuimarve sorry for the spelling, who could be anything,so all in all not to bad, for me 4,5,or 6 could well be in our sights,COYH

I think we could make the top 4 with this squad although I share peoples concern about the hooking role and I also think the half backs need to show a significant improvement both from a playmaking and field kicking perspective. I think we have the best pack in the league and am looking forward to seeing big Frank running out wide in a similar way that Noel Cleal did in 89/91. I believe they are similar types of player. I also think we will see even more from Mini if he is spelled during games.

Looking forward to start of season

I believe this is the best squad with the most depth we've had for 20 years or more - add to that that Radford has another year's experience behind him and I think we'll do well. This pack is arguably the best in the league and Shaul may well to prove to be a big try scorer following Pritchard and Manu around. Houghton's workload may well be reduced (tackling particularly) with our stronger pack and I think Pryce will be ably backed up by Abdul who looked very comfortable in that position and has shown himself to have the guile and strength to play several back to back games in the Super League. And let's not forget that Washbrook has played 6 when pushed as well as Tuimivave who is a 6 too. To say our back-line lacks depth is a little off I reckon with Fonua, Tuimavave, Logan, Talanoa, Michaels, Naughton, Yeaman (if needed), Lancaster. Ultimately, until top quality youth has come through the ranks over several seasons it's a bit hard to fill every position with stars without breaking the cap. Anyway, just so long as our injuries are short term and less than 10 at a time I'm confident of top 4.

Never in a million years is this squad better than the one we had between around 2003 to 2007. The back row is excellent, hooker only average with no back up. Only 2 top class props although I'm sure ellis will do a job when fit. Halfs could go OK but could be a major weakness, kicking game isn't great and other than fonua, our 3/4's are either average at best or inexperienced.

I think you may be in for a disappointment if you seriously think we'll finish top 4.

How many of our options from 1 to 7 would get into any of the starting 17's of last season's top 4?

I disagree slightly. I understand what your saying in terms of quality now, but I think over the last 10 years the standard of players playing today has dropped significantly. How many of the players from the likes of cunningham, Sculthorpe, long, peacock, feilden, deacon, senior, jamie lyon, Richie Barnett,Richard swain would walk into any side even now. What we have to do is look at our recruitment and realise it's the best we have had for 10 yrs and look at our oppositions recruitment. And many teams have Bearley improved or not at all. Wigan have only sam Tompkins as an improvement but on a whole we should have closed the gap. Leeds have lost massive leadership accross multiple positions so in theory we should of closed the gap. So taking into perspective whole recruitment of today's game on paper we should be ok and three more wins should see us compete for top four. But as we all know it has to be transferred onto the pitch. So il stay optimistic for now and hope we can achieve top 6 and being two points of 4th when playoffs start. Then who knows.

I think Wigan & saints will finish top, after that I'm not sure which teams will make the other four spots but it's fairly obvious who will be in the mix

Leeds, cats, hudds, wire are going to be an unknown quantity, as are we. But I think 5th or even 4th is not unrealistic. Whatever your thoughts are, we deserve to be optimistic

The point I was countering was that this was our best squad for 20 years which it clearly isn't. I agree that our recruitment has, on the whole, been better than most but we have mainly strengthened what was probably our best aspect last season, whilst not addressing the major weaknesses (lack of quality out wide, average kicking game, no decent hooking options). We've lost a 20+ tries per season winger from a side that struggled to get over the line so there are plenty of ways of looking at recruitment and retention.

I just don't see that we've addressed the problems that were the difference between us and the top sides last year

Radford been the main one. But wont get in to that, hes got my full support for the start of the 2016 season, hes a good squad, no excuses, just have to see how we go

Hooker is that average that the best team in the league were desperate to sign him.

Listen to what Westerman has to say about him also in the recent fans forum.

Although I reckon most fans know more than the best coach in the league and an England international.

Anyone who thinks Houghton is average is retarded. Would easily be in the England setup if at a top club or playing in the NRL

One of the best in super league