Christ we got beat by Salford who played well and we played poorly but had Yeaman passed to Briscoe when he made the break, had we not lost the scrum

and Lynch not given the ball away on the 1st tackle 10M from Salfords line it could have been a lot different. We were poor there is no denying it but jeez we are only 3 games into a new season after having a whole new set up at the club and a new Coach who has to instil into the squad he inherited and try and erase all that was bad and ingrained into the players over the last 4 years.

This isnt going to happen overnight and we will no doubt see what happened last night were the players reverted to last season when under pressure and went away from the game plan.

Gentle I believe is a very good Coach but a miracle worker he aint so give them time, we have seen some encouraging signs so far but it will take time to get them to be consistant and be rid of their previous failings and habits.

Have to agree,this is what he said last night.

The Black and Whites also handed a Super League debut to young prop Josh Bowden after losing Sam Moa to suspension and Joe Westerman to injury following last week’s match against London, but Gentle said there were no excuses from his side.

“Nobody is blaming anyone and I know these blokes pretty well now. It was an uncharacteristic performance and the closer we got to the finish line the more panic set in with us,” he said.

“I didn’t put our younger guys back on toward the end because I thought having our senior guys out there would bring some clam heads to the team, but it did pan out that way.”

Now I'm not saying that it is the case because I didn't go or listen, so I can't comment on the nature of his performance, but I can't help but wonder if it's because he's already being asked to do too much with 80 minutes most weeks. I personally think by doing so it's always a matter of time before his standards slip, it's too demanding a role to see otherwise. Swain was a freak, far from the norm.

I thought Danny did look a bit tired last night to be fair he didn't play badly just didn't have the same zip to his game

was houghton who was penalised for not standing square that allowed salford to win the game. should he have been replaced earlier? i think so, nicklas at hooker may have given us a bit more zip at the ptb going into the last quarter

BEGONE!!!...........we don`t have positive thinking in these parts.

Most sense I've read all day.

i agree that this is the proper and grown up reaction to the game. for me Gentle is in the unfortunate position that he's coming into hull in a time that we have heard all the excuses before (R. Agar and P. Sharp) and any over reaction is due to fear of 3 more seasons of under achieving. we allow our selves to be swept along by the Hull fc PR team and we start to think there is a quick fix. Not that i have a problem with the Hull PR approach, they have got to do that we need people through the gates.

Still not sure how we lost the game in all honesty our defence in the middle was superb, we must have restricted them to their own 40 whenever they were asked to clear their line.

Our goal line defence was good too as we looked in control whenever they spread the ball which looked fancy without doing much a early kick and a sensational offload opened us up in the first half.

Think last night will have been a lesson learnt in sub management for Gentle as you could see Houghton was out on his feet in the last 10 and was no surprise that he gave the penalty away for not getting square.

Penalties were the killer last night though and its not as if they were penalties on tackle 1 or 2 they seemed to always be on tackle 5 again something what I think you can put down to fatigue.

With the ball our forwards got us up the pitch no problem but when we got into their 20 we just lacked some composure and seemed to go back to passing it along the line just for the sake of it without any real structure in place. We need to get McKinnon involved on the left to create the extra man.

Utterly absurd comment....we're 4 games in to a new season for crying out loud!!

Just seen Hulls tries on super league extra, shocking defence from Salford for the first 3,

And we still won.......