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Quote: knocker norton "You are now assuming something which is incorrect. Morgan himself said Webster had made more tackles then usual in this particular game and was probably 'tired' when he wrapped his considerable arm around the Bulls players head.

Not at all, he's a good attacking player is Jordan. I just don't like to see people dumped on their heads in such a way. If it was accidental then so be it but I would argue it's difficult to accidently drop someone on their head and I hate to see any lifting tackles take place.

Why is he lifting him in the first place when he's the last line of defence? Surely a copybook tackle would have sufficed??

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Why is he lifting him in the first place when he's the last line of defence? Surely a copybook tackle would have sufficed??'"


Probably with the intention of dominating the tackle and winning his defence a few more seconds.

It was a tackle that went badly wrong for him I dont beleive for one second he planned to drop the Crusaders player on his head and his immediate remorse and apology probably backs that up.

Illegal = yes
Deliberate = no

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Quote: knocker norton "You wouldnt admit to it even if you did!
Probably not, no tbh. But on this occasion, having to sit 10 yards from Kath was payment enough for me!

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Quote: smudgersmith "EL CAMO - did you get a good view from the North Stand? Perhaps is was a similar view as the writer for your website rlsent off Hull’s Jordan Tansey in the 75th-minute for a late tackle on Clinton Schifcofskerl'"
How was it a late tackle he still had the ball

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I'm afraid people need to get their B&W specs off for this one.

As Agar has said on the radio (and has also said in the past to the RFL), the spear tackle (or "dumping" as he calls it) is the piece of foul play that ABOVE ALL OTHERS needs ridding from the game. The reason being you can break a players neck.

Tansey may well have not intended to dump him on his head. However, in order to do so, he must have at some stage intentionally lifted the player's legs. Then at that point he may have lost control of the tackle resulting in him being tipped on his head.

When a player runs through and is stopped by the opposing full back head on there is no way that through simple "momentum" a player could end up being dumped to the ground like that head first. He must have lifted his legs and then at that point some kind of "momentum" might take (dangerously) over. Also don't forget there was no one else in the tackle to complicate things.

That Tansey lost control of the tackle doesn't absolve him of guilt. It has to be the tackler's responsibility to control the tackle, it really can't be the responsibility of anyone else!

Lastly he already has form for this, from last year. At that disciplinary hearing, the club, having decided it was bad, admitted the charge and were happy to accept a 2 match ban. Unfortunately he hasn't learnt his lesson...

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Quote: smudgersmith "EL CAMO - did you get a good view from the North Stand? Perhaps is was a similar view as the writer for your website rlsent off Hull’s Jordan Tansey in the 75th-minute for a late tackle on Clinton Schifcofskerl'"


Smudger just because a report appears on a website it doesn't mean it was written by somebody on that website.

For your information, the report was a neutral report and is available on Superleague's own website, I daresay you will find this report syndicated in various newspapers too. Maybe if you broaden your horizons and read articles other than from your own back door, you will become less blinkered in life, and realise the world is quite a big place and not all black and white and smelling of fish. icon_wink.gif

For your further info here is the original article:

www.superleague.co.uk/report.php?id=3217388
Quote: smudgersmith "EL CAMO - did you get a good view from the North Stand? Perhaps is was a similar view as the writer for your website rlsent off Hull’s Jordan Tansey in the 75th-minute for a late tackle on Clinton Schifcofskerl'"


Smudger just because a report appears on a website it doesn't mean it was written by somebody on that website.

For your information, the report was a neutral report and is available on Superleague's own website, I daresay you will find this report syndicated in various newspapers too. Maybe if you broaden your horizons and read articles other than from your own back door, you will become less blinkered in life, and realise the world is quite a big place and not all black and white and smelling of fish. icon_wink.gif

For your further info here is the original article:

www.superleague.co.uk/report.php?id=3217388


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Quote: MrPhilb "Yes, i'd imagine picking someone up and dropping them on their head is an attempt to injure someone.'"


he didnt do it with the intention of injuring him FOOL, icon_rolleyes.gif it was reckless and shouldnt have happened, a red card was correct IMO, but to say tansey "meant" to do it is just plain stupid and your anti hull thoughts are there to see. a026.gif

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Quote: MrPhilb "Not at all, he's a good attacking player is Jordan. I just don't like to see people dumped on their heads in such a way. If it was accidental then so be it but I would argue it's difficult to accidently drop someone on their head and I hate to see any lifting tackles take place.

Why is he lifting him in the first place when he's the last line of defence? Surely a copybook tackle would have sufficed??'"


Tansey is a player that cannot tackle. it's why he is not a fullback, in my opinion. However, when a player isa running at 100% speed and gets tackled, then yeah, it can go wrong for the runner. happens all the time including to me. Tansey simply made a tackle with no malice or any intent to hurt whatsoever. Yeah he landed on his head, it's called Rugby League. No spear, no intent, pure speed and motion. You are just being an idiot. You know what happened so why not just try being objective. Not like he stamped on a prone innocents face is it.

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Quote: Brasshat "EL CAMO - did you get a good view from the North Stand? Perhaps is was a similar view as the writer for your website rlsent off Hull’s Jordan Tansey in the 75th-minute for a late tackle on Clinton Schifcofskerl'"


Smudger just because a report appears on a website it doesn't mean it was written by somebody on that website.

For your information, the report was a neutral report and is available on Superleague's own website, I daresay you will find this report syndicated in various newspapers too. Maybe if you broaden your horizons and read articles other than from your own back door, you will become less blinkered in life, and realise the world is quite a big place and not all black and white and smelling of fish.
So in summary your media guy couldn't be d to write a report or didn't bother attending the game?

I saw the same article on the super league website however, as the crusaders one should be a reflection of your opinions chose to comment on yours.

Not sure what you mean about my own back door however the comment about the world not being black and white, I agree however give us a few more years and we will be changing that, for rugby league at least.

has anyone found a link to a video of the tackle yet, heard it was on SSN?

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Quote: MrPhilb "Thats ok then, He won't get banned then much like you don't for an accidental high tackle.'"

Did I say he won`t get banned?,I am just pointing out I don`t think it was intentional,doesn`t make the tackle still not being illegal.Take that red and white shirt off for one minute and look at it logicaly.

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Just watched it on SL show, be very shocked if he gets anything more than SOS

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Just watched the sending off on sky and i'd say it was more radfords fault as 2nd man in rather than Tansey.

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Quote: Brasshat " Maybe if you broaden your horizons and read articles other than from your own back door, you will become less blinkered in life, and realise the world is quite a big place and not all black and white and smelling of fish.
Classic!

Justifiable sending off; can't believe the debate! Don't think he meant it; but he still did it.

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