"Faith in the selected team" that was selected on the basis that we would be winning at some point? That's an attitude that is all wrong in my book. You have to earn wins - how many times, in any sport, has a team "expected" to win against supposed lower opposition not won? I can think of at least 4 off the top of my head

No, faith in the selected team chosen would be to let Hadley loose no matter who the opposition. What you're claiming to be the case says that Radford wasn't confident enough in Hadley to give him a game until we were comfortably in front, but did think that Widnes were easy enough to beat to allow that. Similar with Crooks.

I realise that it's a massive if, but IF there is any truth in your claims at all, that is a poor attitude and the kind of thing that can trickle down to the players and contribute to the very problems that we have and that Radford did not like about Sunday.

Exactly. There's a difference between wanting the best circumstances in which to integrate youngsters into the team and banking on an easy ride and making decisions based upon that expectation.

Because it's the kind of attitude that leads to results like on Sunday. If what you're saying is true then Radders was so confident that we would blow Widnes away he picked two players to solely give them a run out and build up their confidence. His "faith" that we would have been in that position will have spread to the players who once again thought all they had to do was show up. His "faith" was misplaced.

We are not a good enough team to be putting two players on the bench for confidence purposes. Even London will do us over with that kind of attitude.

Well yeah do you think a coach picks a team expecting to lose? Wouldn't that be putting his job on the line? We had enough chances we didn't take to put 30 on widnes bit because we didn't that's lennys fault with his stinky attitude? A coach or a player can't win!

No, he shouldn't pick a team expecting to lose. But he can't pick a team expecting to win either. He has to pick a team that will fight and work hard for a win every week regardless of the actual result. They didn't do that on Sunday.

Does a gambler place a bet he expects to lose?

It's simple; you prepare for the worst, and hope for the best. You don't assume everything will go great and you can cruise through, because then it won't.

Like you?? If he's sharing his thoughts with his friends then he's very unprofessional, especially when certain of those friends like to air their knowledge on social media sites.

bring back c stone ,v farrar, c birdsall, attitude would be spot on with those guys in the team,

You don't half talk rubbish.

Modern RL is a 17 man game. If you're taking a game seriously, you pick four players on your bench that will come on and contribute to the overall success of the team. You have a game plan that includes when and where you'll utilise your bench players for maximum effect. To say 'we can beat this lot with only 15 men, so I'll put a couple of guys in for a confidence-building run out' is indicative of all that has been wrong with our club for the last several years. Turning up against supposedly poorer opposition and thinking it's going to be so easy that we'll only need 2 subs, then being humiliated on our own ground, is totally unforgiveable.

Ok fair enough but wasn't you told in confidence or did he insist that you pass it on via the message board? Seems to me that you just want everyone to know that you're "in the loop"
Btw what do you want to show me?

My guess is a Lee Radford friendship band and a Lenny's loyalty card.

I don't drink.

prove that I do? & I will prove that I don't?

Difficult call on Crooks. To often though players in Hull, both FC and KR, have had a break through season and then drifted into mediocrity. Is it something to do with mental attitude, thinking they are something better than they really are. Do we as fans big these players up to much in the gold fish bowl that is Hull RL. They then coast for two or three seasons living with a celebrity status, at which point the game has passed them by and they are average pro or even semi-pro players.