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| Quote: davey37 "Not going by what Jon Sharp said on Boots 'n all this week.
Some sort of agreement amongst refs (here and in Oz) that interception tries will NOT be referred to the Video Ref.
Quite!
May as well stand in the defensive line and wait for the pass
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| Quote: H1 2 HFC "Saying that, I'm watching last night's Boots N All, and they're discussing Gaskell's interception try against Widnes.
Jon Sharp has basically said,
[i"We haven't refered interceptions to the video referee since 2006, when the referees went full time. If there is a player offside from an interception, it doesn't go to the VR, unless the touch judge intervenes."[/i.
Bomber chipped in and said he thinks every interception should go to the VR, so if that was the case, Hall's try would've obviously been disallowed, as would Gaskell's.
Begs the question, why didn't the touch judges spot either of them?'"
Not to be pedantic but it wouldn't have been disallowed.
Hall was tackled before Eden went to score and the VR wouldn't have been able to look at the interception
I agree he is offside for the interception and that the touch judge should have intervened. Whether or not Ben Thaler would have gone to the VR had Hall gone all the way is also debatable
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| Quote: davey37 "Touch judges need a big kick up the 'arris and start taking some responsibility and getting involved in the game.
Too much is left to the refereee for me whilst touch judges do next to nowt.'"
Touch judges get involved as far as the referee instructs them. They're told by the referee, before the game, just how involved they want them to be. Blame the refs, not the TJs
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| Quote: R.B.A "Interesting comments on Super League back chat. Should Gareth Ellis have got together with Dobbo and allowed Rovers to regather the ball from the kick off after the try and walk in unopposed under the sticks to allow the game to finish as a draw?
A more interesting suggestion, [sizeand one that would gain Hull FC widespread respect throughout the sporting world, would be to offer a replay at the KC with all gate receipts going to charity. The publicity this would receive for Hull FC and the game in general would be massive.[/size Exiles weekend perhaps?'"
Classic
Think we'll just have the 2 points and the cherished memories of the big screen flashing "TRY"
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| Quote: hansoloishere "Still ing myself laughing...'"
Try Tena Lady.
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| Quote: meatpaste "Try Tena Lady.'"
He did, but the video ref still ruled in favour of Hull FC
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| Quote: cod'ead "Touch judges get involved as far as the referee instructs them. They're told by the referee, before the game, just how involved they want them to be. Blame the refs, not the TJs'"
So a TJ spots something and doesn't report it because a ref has told them to stay out of a game?
Quite possibly one of the most bizarre claims I think I've ever heard regarding RL.
I agree with the orginal poster. We are bashing the standards of reffing, but the touch judges need to get far better as well in my opinion. Some of them seem to be soley about policing if somebodys foot is in touch or not.
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| Quote: Bal "So a TJ spots something and doesn't report it because a ref has told them to stay out of a game?
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Pity Thaler didn't tell Child to keep his trap shut when Child came up with the alleged accidental offside before Yeamo' try. Thaler had already given a turnover.
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| Quote: Bal "Quite possibly one of the most bizarre claims I think I've ever heard regarding RL.'"
You've been coming on long enough to have read that observation from cod'ead before, I believe him to be rght, if the referee gives a direction ad how involved his tj's are to be then they follow it.
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| Quote: meatpaste "Try, Chris Green (Hull FC 78mins).'"
Edited for just the sheer laugh of it
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| Quote: meatpaste "Pity Thaler didn't tell Child to keep his trap shut when Child came up with the alleged accidental offside before Yeamo' try. Thaler had already given a turnover.'"
The alleged accidental offside that Cummings and O'Connor agreed with?
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| Quote: Bal "So a TJ spots something and doesn't report it because a ref has told them to stay out of a game?
Quite possibly one of the most bizarre claims I think I've ever heard regarding RL.
I agree with the orginal poster. We are bashing the standards of reffing, but the touch judges need to get far better as well in my opinion. Some of them seem to be soley about policing if somebodys foot is in touch or not.'"
Whether you think it bizarre is totally immaterial. I'm telling you that this is what happens. I've personally received instructions that have ranged between: "whatever you see, come on and I'll back you up" to "we're on telly today, so all I want you to do is mark touch and flag goals".
Don't believe me? Try using "Ask the ref" and see what they say.
I don't agree with using Grade 1 refs as Touchies, they are two completely different jobs and require completely different approaches. Far better to use a pool of dedicated TJs.
I also think Refs and TJs should be permanently teamed, we'd soon see if any patterns were developing then.
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| Doesn't accidental off side incur a penalty and not a scrum. Thought he'd given a knock-on. No hang on it is a scrum still thought he'd given Horne knocking on.
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| Quote: meatpaste "Pity Thaler didn't tell Child to keep his trap shut when Child came up with the alleged accidental offside before Yeamo' try. Thaler had already given a turnover.'"
Sounds like you're still crying. Diddums.
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