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Quote: jools "No I'm not getting confused I know the difference and the rules-'"


Er, yes you are and no you don't.

How many times have you seen a Sky game where the ref has blown for offside against the defence when even one or two players in the line are clearly in front of him? Maybe not often but it does, and should happen.

Not impeding or tackling, but in front of the 10 metre line set by the ref, gaining an advantage unfairly, and offside.

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Quote: Chris28 "Er, yes you are and no you don't.

How many times have you seen a Sky game where the ref has blown for offside against the defence when even one or two players in the line are clearly in front of him? Maybe not often but it does, and should happen.

Not impeding or tackling, but in front of the 10 metre line set by the ref, gaining an advantage unfairly, and offside.'"


Exactly. If wingers or centres are offside they are reducing the attacking side from going out wide with the ball and forcing them down the middle to the onside players. That is a penalty

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But if the ref doesn't think an advantage has been gained he can let the game continue in order to allow the game to flow. From my position on the sidelines I can say that If the ref had blown up every time fc had a man offside it would have been a hell of a lot more than 12 penalties. Did you not hear the hallelujahs coming from our crowd when he gave one???
In fact yes you are correct if he had blown his whistle for every offside infringement made it would have had a bearing on the game-we'd have finished with a much bigger margin-we'd have had even more possession and field position. You got in our half four or five times all game off your own play-that fact doesn't change.

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Quote: jools "But if the ref doesn't think an advantage has been gained he can let the game continue in order to allow the game to flow. From my position on the sidelines I can say that If the ref had blown up every time fc had a man offside it would have been a hell of a lot more than 12 penalties. Did you not hear the hallelujahs coming from our crowd when he gave one???
In fact yes you are correct if he had blown his whistle for every offside infringement made it would have had a bearing on the game-we'd have finished with a much bigger margin-we'd have had even more possession and field position. You got in our half four or five times all game off your own play-that fact doesn't change.'"



didnt hear any noise from your fans until crabtree scored! you were very quiet! (probably expecting to be 20points up at ht)

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Quote: jools "But if the ref doesn't think an advantage has been gained he can let the game continue in order to allow the game to flow. From my position on the sidelines I can say that If the ref had blown up every time fc had a man offside it would have been a hell of a lot more than 12 penalties. Did you not hear the hallelujahs coming from our crowd when he gave one???
In fact yes you are correct if he had blown his whistle for every offside infringement made it would have had a bearing on the game-we'd have finished with a much bigger margin-we'd have had even more possession and field position. You got in our half four or five times all game off your own play-that fact doesn't change.'"


Be a totally different story on Sunday

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Quote: jools "But if the ref doesn't think an advantage has been gained he can let the game continue in order to allow the game to flow. From my position on the sidelines I can say that If the ref had blown up every time fc had a man offside it would have been a hell of a lot more than 12 penalties. Did you not hear the hallelujahs coming from our crowd when he gave one???
In fact yes you are correct if he had blown his whistle for every offside infringement made it would have had a bearing on the game-we'd have finished with a much bigger margin-we'd have had even more possession and field position. You got in our half four or five times all game off your own play-that fact doesn't change.'"



You really are myopic. All we ask is that referees apply the rules consistently to both sides. This patently did not happen on Monday. As has been mentioned many times on this forum we have not said that he cost us the match, but he did cost us the opportunity to make more of an impact.

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Quote: Wilde 3 "Exactly. If wingers or centres are offside they are reducing the attacking side from going out wide with the ball and forcing them down the middle to the onside players. That is a penalty'"


When I was reffing, if the outside backs were creeping, I'd let the defending skipper know, I'd also tell him that I'd wait until the 5th tackle to penalise them for it. It only usually failed to work if I happened to be speaking to a thick skipper.

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Quote: jools "If your indiscipline cost you that is the players fault not child's.'"

So you reckon you were 6 times more disciplined than we were right up until 30 seconds from the end? Never offside even once? Markers perfectly square at every PTB?

OK then. icon_rolleyes.gif

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We were more disciplined yes. And I've already commented about the offside-can't really comment on markers as cant tell from where I was sat.

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Do they allow female refs lol. From Hull

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Quote: jools "We were more disciplined yes. And I've already commented about the offside-can't really comment on markers as cant tell from where I was sat.'"

Yeah it is always difficult to tell if they are square listening to a match on the radio isnt it icon_lol.gif

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Quote: airlie "Do they allow female refs lol. From Hull'"


Hilarious

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Funnily enough the only time we heard you lot was when you were swearing!

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Quote: jools "We were more disciplined yes. And I've already commented about the offside-can't really comment on markers as cant tell from where I was sat.'"

Well done for avoiding the question.

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Quote: Kosh "So you reckon you were 6 times more disciplined than we were right up until 30 seconds from the end? Never offside even once? Markers perfectly square at every PTB?

OK then.
ahead of monday's game many Hull FC fans pointed out that the team would be more knackered than the giants because of the Good friday games + the Giants having the luxury of player rotation.

Given that tired players are more error / penalty prone it is possible that Hull would fair worse than the Giants.

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