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Quote: WIZEB "Wouldn't disagree.
Players are employees and should get on with what their paid to do.
Maybe too many chiefs are spoiling the broth, don't know?
One things for sure, a winning team makes a happier club.
I don't wanna see PG go, continuity is always preferable and more rewarding than chopping and changing but we've got to start improving on the island (EXPRO

Agree, I don't want to see Gentle go as I can see potential in him. A lot of people were quick to put the improvement on the return of Ellis and Andy Hay going. But has Gentle taken on to much, does he need more experience or an assistant to bounce ideas off. Have the players lost a middle man they could discuss issues with when Hay went.

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Quote: FCFaithful Stu "If this is the case it shouldn't be effecting the players, it is a Gentle / McRae issue. By letting it effect them they are indirectly displaying player power. Does this mean they prefer McRae to Gentle as the way they are going they will get Gentle the sack. That's not exactly backing a manager they believe in.'"


I dunno, as I'm not making any claims that there is a problem. If there was though, it would be a little simplistic to say it couldn't/shouldn't affect the players.

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Quote: Rock God X "I dunno, as I'm not making any claims that there is a problem. If there was though, it would be a little simplistic to say it couldn't/shouldn't affect the players.'"



Agree about it being simplistic, lots of different issues affect people differently in a work environment. However, this isn't the first time we have been here. It's the teams we get beat by and the way we play in certain games that suggests to me a less than professional attitude within the club. Regardless of what has been done recently to weed out these issues.

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We're nearly two years into Gentles tenure and yet the same failings are still there. As i said yesyerday this job is too big for Gentle and its time somebody realised that and employed a man with experience who can cope with the pressure and control the players as well as someone who demands respect. Who this is i dont know but it isnt Gentle im afraid to say

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when the job was available, i stated we should have gone for daniel anderson....
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Quote: deslawson "Where was this fantastic fanbase when gateshead thunder moved their business to hull and took you over. Surely with a fanbase of 10,000 how could you be skint or have they just joined the band wagon since you moved to the KC. ??'"


How relevant is that? We wasn't a massive club at the back end era of the Boulevard, but since then we have been awarded a grade A license, and have improved our fanbase significantly. We have a fantastic fanbase now - it's immaterial what it was over 10 years ago. If you wanna drudge up irrelevant history, we got 28,798 into boulevard in 1936. We have always, and will always have superior crowd numbers to Hull KR.

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Quote: Sebasteeno "We're nearly two years into Gentles tenure and yet the same failings are still there. As i said yesyerday this job is too big for Gentle and its time somebody realised that and employed a man with experience who can cope with the pressure and control the players as well as someone who demands respect. Who this is i dont know but it isnt Gentle im afraid to say'"



Not sure I agree about Gentle not handling the pressure. Seems very assured to me at keeping calm and level headed and thinking long term. You could argue that he comes across as to laid back.

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Quote: berro's best mate "when the job was available, i stated we should have gone for daniel anderson....
experienced, respected, top coach'"


Well when there's next a vacancy I'll get AP to give you a ring so you can give him some advice.

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Quote: WIZEB "Ellis always fights to get on his feet for a quick ptb.'"


Oh for Sammy Moa back. He led the way in this respect.

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Quote: Staffs FC "Oh for Sammy Moa back. He led the way in this respect.'"



As far as Aggression going forward we really do miss Moa and Manu... I said we need to replace them in the off season but the optimists among us kept saying 'In Gentle we trust' - We don't see much of that recently!

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Quote: BIGARR "As far as Aggression going forward we really do miss Moa and Manu... I said we need to replace them in the off season but the optimists among us kept saying 'In Gentle we trust' - We don't see much of that recently!'"



There was very little available though.

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Quote: BIGARR "As far as Aggression going forward we really do miss Moa and Manu... I said we need to replace them in the off season but the optimists among us kept saying 'In Gentle we trust' - We don't see much of that recently!'"


I have said on another thread that I trust in Gentle to improve this club and make it one that challenges. It doesn't alter the fact that Moa was superb at getting a quick ptb and hopefully Paea will do the same . Lynch is an outstanding prop in my view and has taken too much stick in isolation this season. He needs props of O Meley/Paea/Moa type to play alongside and I hope we sign another for 2014.

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Quote: Staffs FC "I have said on another thread that I trust in Gentle to improve this club and make it one that challenges. It doesn't alter the fact that Moa was superb at getting a quick ptb and hopefully Paea will do the same . Lynch is an outstanding prop in my view and has taken too much stick in isolation this season. He needs props of O Meley/Paea/Moa type to play alongside and I hope we sign another for 2014.'"


Not seeing Lynch getting in stick in isolation, personally. Pretty much all of our props have been criticised this season, with the exception of O'Meley, and justifiably so for all of them.

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Anyone who thinks you can make a championship winning team in two seasons is quite frankly brain dead. Before people point out Madge at Wigan, he took over a team that was 80 minutes away from a grand final and who had a core of players who had played together for 3/4 seasons.

Whilst I am deeply frustrated at the recent run of form I still firmly believe we are building a decent team. Its part of life that some signings will cut it and others wont but its through trial and error you can correct this. We have invested in some good young players, got some experience and now its all about fine tuning. The pack needs addressing and we have already started recruiting for it next season in signing a good player in Micky P from Rovers.

If people didn't get so carried away when we win a game they won't get really upset when we lose a couple.

When Gentle took over we had a mass of problems, no kicking game, no scrum half, no youth players coming through the ranks and win a play off game for the first time in years. Gentle has brought all these and whilst results don't look too pretty recently we are under his leadership going in the right direction.

Sure we are going to have to be patient, but thats life thats sport.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Not seeing Lynch getting in stick in isolation, personally. Pretty much all of our props have been criticised this season, with the exception of O'Meley, and justifiably so for all of them.'"


Fine by me - I think he's recently become the Galea of the front row but you disagree - no problem. Many posts are about Lynch not doing the job this season and far fewer are about Watts, Green, Bowden and Johnson so I'll stand by my claim. One thing you'll never get from Lynch IMO is less than 110% effort (sometimes it's his downfall) and in times like this those are the players that will ultimately bring us through short term pain. A few things have let him down this year but his stats will show not much difference to last year come October.

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