But Catalans sounded quite scrappy as well and with a bit more effort and concentration the score could of been closer, like I said earlier maybe it was a game to far for us and we do need the break.

That wrecking ball is banned aswell so that will rule out a major threat!

Do you just think players turn up one week and decide on what percentage of effort they are going to put in ?

Have you caught a rugby ball every time its being passed to you ?

There was nothing wrong with the effort, the execution wasn't there today. You win some, you lose some.

Yeah because if I thought players didn't bother putting effort in then I wouldn't buy a pass every year but I do think players can turn up to games in the wrong frame of mind and that must have a bearing on effort and concentration, Catalans is a long trip coming on the back of a long run of good results where the effort has been excellent so like I said it was probably a game to far and we need the break, I'm not disappointed with the loss because I don't expect us to win every game and I'm not having ago at the players I was merely stating that the gulf in performance from last week is quite big that's the disappointing thing for me.

Not time to press the panic button, but a reminder that we are not the finished Top4 team some have started to think we are, and that we must work harder to be consistent.

I also think O'Meley's absence again highlighted our lack of 'big' players in the side, we struggle with this early in the season on Wet pitches and also against big packs like Catalan. I feel we need to add 2 big props, one to replace O'Meley and one as squad cover/competition for the other props.

Well I'm a little disappointed we couldn't give them a game, especially as they were without the man that makes them tick.

Yhe brother in law watched it in his local in Wigan and txtd me...just said we couldnt hold the ball.We wont be the last team to get beat in france and when we was in our bad run and some one said out of these 4 fixtures,we would beat Wire,Rovers and Leeds...id have said thanks.The break could be coming at the right time and by the time we face Cas...we could be at full strength....its a loss,no need to panic but some will.

as a rhinos supporter i always tend to look at how sides that have beaten us in the previous week perform in their next game and in most instances the effort and endurance put in to beat the champs ends up in a defeat the week after,your win last week again proves this point

I'm with you on that.
I think the effort you put into beating us the first game of the season is why Cas turned you over in the second round.

and a wigan fan could say the same about Leeds/wire.

No you didnt. Quite correct.

We were completely dominated in all areas and Catalan didnt even play that well. That's our worst performance of the season by miles. Think the effort over the last couple of months finally caught up with us.

Worst than the Rovers performance?