it most certainly does sir!!

Just pointing out that last week they were poor. You said Maguire had transformed the Wigan team I simply mentioned that he didn't last week. Don't understand the 60 point bit.

the player getting dropped wont be a Aussie though......Morgan has a bloody big ego.

Aye...and it will catch up with him at some point

If they'd got another 2 tries and 2 goals it would have been 60

Just saying we could have conceded 10 tries and it would have been a decent reflection of our performance

Thought I would stick my twopennyworth in to the debate.

Although last nights performance was a little disappointing (even though the loss was probably expected), it would be harsh in the extreme to sack Agar when we have 4 wins from 6 so far. What's more, removing him would solve little as the chances of being able to appoint a top class coach in March are minimal. These days. coaches seem loathe to switch clubs mid season, preferring to see out their contract with the coaching merry go-round taking place during the close season. This situation seems to be especially true down under with coaching movements often known well before the end of the current season. The other option would be to install Moore as head coach, but seeing as promoting the assistant of a failed sacked head coach is what got us into this situation in the first place, I don't think its the right option. Also Moore is unproven as a head coach so again we would be back to square one.

So Agar should stay for the time being, given the current dictates. Having said all that, I do not believe his contract should be extended beyond the current campaign.
Everything about our club indicates that we should be challenging Leeds for the position of top dogs in SL. Our ground, attendance levels, income streams, merchandising sales etc all point towards one of the biggest clubs in the British game, which is why we was awarded a grade A franchise in 2008. But these advantages are clearly not being transferred into an eqvilalent level of success on the playing field. One of the major contributory factors holding us back from making a genuine sustained challenge for honours is the board's refusal to head hunt a World class head coach. With all the will in the World, Richard Agar is not the man to take us up to the next level and in my opinion the board should start making discreet enquiries now concerning potential candidates for the position for the next 3-5 years.

This isn't a knee-jerk reaction to last night's result, I have been of the opinion that Richard Agar is not the man for the job since the day at Quins when Peter Sharp was fired. We have the basis of a playing squad capable of great things (there isn't too much tinkering required) but I'm afraid we will continue to languish in mid table rather than top 3 (which is where we should be) until this issue is faced up to.

So in summary : Short term, Agar should stay as there is no obvious immediate replacement, but long term he simply isn't up to the job in hand. He's a grade B coach in charge of a grade A club.

And that dear readers is my twopennyworth.

Are we going to have one of these threads every time we lose ?

Some of you are just hell bent on bringing negativity back to the club.

We got beat and didn't play at our best...it fooking happens.

No fooking $hit sherlock.

Thought Agar was the wrong choice at the time and the only way this club will go forward is with a top-class coach for 2011....sorry if that is harsh but thats how i see it.

Stop thinking you own the place baldy.

Says the regular Horne basher.

Last time i looked it was a fans forum and opinions board...thats my opinion...if you dont like it,dont read...as for owning...says a ex MOD....

my view on Agar is that I still don't rate him, and think he has a lot to prove

but sacking him now would be pointless, we have made a decent start to the season. Yes last nights performance and our performance in Wales were poor, but we also got an unexpected win at Saints that counters one of those unexpected defeats.

so at the moment I'd stick with him, but if he is out of contract at the end of the year I'd hope we are going after a big name to replace him. Brown at Hudds and Mcguire at Wigan have shown what a difference a coach can make without making many new signings.