I said that to my missus when Wigan player got injured play was stopped when Connor got his knock play carried on.

What it does highlight is that Connor is just not a half back.
When we do eventually have the ball he should be running it.We dont need another Sneyd at half back.
Our lack of pace is painful to watch.
If Kelly is considering staying then we should try and keep him and offload Connor.

Yeah, expected a big loss today so not a surprise. Problem is we have another short turnaround and still loads of players out - nightmare end to an awful year.

The worrying thing is where are the young players? Know we have named Mcmanara, Ferrera etc in the squad recently and Wynne is of course out there now, but it doesnt feel like we have potential internationals in the ranks. A lot of our 'young' players are ones who were given a run out in Sydney 2.5 years ago and havent progressed.

Shaul is our last home grown international and he made his debut 7 years ago now. How many of this Wigan side are off their production line of young players?

Club still needs a big shakeup. I will give Last some credit for shaking the team up a bit in recent weeks but we need a strong Head Coach who can transform the culture. Like Holbrook did for Saints.

That was such a simple play by Wigan but they do it with such pace and precision on each pass that Farrell was able to go over untouched. Id kill to see us move the ball that fast.

Matongo needs to be released.
Poor decision starting him alongside Fash it needed Satae or Sao for some early field position.
How crap is our running onto the ball compared to wigans, they are quick organised and aggressive at the play the ball
We're slow, sluggish with no momentum

Noticed it A lot latley unless Ellis plays we make no yards, end up kicking on our own 35/40 , then the oppo eat up the metres die to our slow defensive line , the cas game was an exception with fast line defence.

Can't Satae play big minutes, why not start Satae and Sao?
Make a statement.
I remember reading the New Zealand Warriors boards before we signed them and both played big minutes, so it's a case of mis management.


So much wrong you wonder where to start.

Our defending around the play the ball is shambolic.
Opposition make way too many metres from it as well as the slow defensive line.

So the semi finalists are 3 of the big 4, with the other one, Saints, going out to Warrington,. Not much changes, does it?

Should have taken the 2.

Agree that the choice of starting props was wrong.

Sorry to pick on individuals but Masi Matongo just isn't good enough. Fifty-odd first grade games and I don't recall him every being anything more than OK. He was touted as Watts' replacement.

Jack Brown has had more impressive games in half a dozen appearances.

Ye of little faith.

Manu Ma'u has been fantastic today.

In an effort to find some positives, I think we've shown some good spirit in the second half.
Also Satae and Ma'u have been excellent.
If we can get Satae, Sao, Taylor, Savelio and Ma'u on the pitch together it should be fun.

Jones as well.

get rid of Satae and Mau, get rid of Houghton, the guy can't pass, bloody useless, Last is trying to knit fog with those work shy individuals. I bet LR is laughing at the result.