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| Quote: Marfa Manu "Oh so we can dismiss that aspect of his game then ![]()
and the goalposts move yet again 
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| Quote: PAUL M "How does Ellis offer more than Horne? He offers a better kicking game yes and organises well. However he doesn't offer pace, support, a step and experience.
Put them together and you have an excellent blend, the same with Seymour.
Horne will have everything he needs to play well next season, if he does then great and if he doesn't then drop him as we have options.'"
good post absolutely spot on. |
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "No it does not blow it out of the water, you have used one other player in the stats ![]()
The Kevin Brown example was used because you said that Horne was not good enough for a top 4 side, and the stats show when compared to Brown, that Horne is as good as, if not better then Brown (who plays for a top 4 side).
It really isn't that difficult.
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Appearances:
Horne 22
Briers 18
Finch 19
Gaskell 19
Brown 21
Chase 22
Tries:
Horne 5
Briers 14
Finch 5
Gaskell 7
Brown 6
Chase 12
Try Assists:
Horne 13
Briers 16
Finch 13
Gaskell 9
Brown 12
Chase 22
Attacking Kicks:
Horne 102
Briers 112
Finch 83
Gaskell 60
Brown 49
Chase 170
Kicks in general play:
Horne 152
Briers 163
Finch 121
Gaskell 127
Brown 57
Chase 240
Clean Breaks:
Horne 12
Briers 11
Finch 9
Gaskell 6
Brown 9
Chase 12
Meters:
Horne 1647
Briers 1044
Finch 982
Gaskell 1014
Brown 1340
Chase 2539
Errors:
Horne 30
Briers 24
Finch 24
Gaskell 32
Brown 27
Chase 30
Although stats aren't everything, Horney's more than match up to the stand offs in the current top 4 sides.
And Rangi Chase has by far and away the best stats of the players I've compared.
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| Quote: hullbg "But you are dismissing their opinion of Horne, which to be fair a lot of people share. If you look at his form over the last 3 years he has not been good enough, quote]
does that include the period of the neck injury and the managing of an illness or not, or the period he has played with no other recognised half pairing partner or not 
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 level 1 AND 2 wow , agar beware eh
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The only issue I have with Horne is the hit and miss kicking and the continual use of the all too well read drop off.
He's not a world beater but he's not that bad either, i think with a decent partner to link with who can organise we will see a difference and if we dont we have options now.
Whether 2 years was right time will tell.
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| Quote: Goochie "Appearances
but you must understand that those arguments are not relevant to sweeties argument are they, especially the metres stat
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| Quote: Chris71 "The only issue I have with Horne is the hit and miss kicking and the continual use of the all too well read drop off.
He's not a world beater but he's not that bad either, i think with a decent partner to link with who can organise we will see a difference and if we dont we have options now.
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but his short kick is spot on, never been a long kicker at all, ever....
but agree 100% once he settles into regular play with a regular hooker and half partner he will shine bright again, but is doing well as he is considering he is almost running it alone now |
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| Quote: Neville Bartos "The Kevin Brown example was used because you said that Horne was not good enough for a top 4 side, and the stats show when compared to Brown, that Horne is as good as, if not better then Brown (who plays for a top 4 side).
It really isn't that difficult.'"
No it is not difficult, I want a quality h/back who is capable of taking our team to the top, not an average one like Horney but one like Rangi Chase now trot along and compare those stats and you will understand why I want this....really it isn't that difficult! |
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[i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "No it does not blow it out of the water, you have used one other player in the stats
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| Quote: Kosh "When that one player not only plays for a top 4 side but has also appeared for England it certainly [idoes[/i blow the argument that Horne isn't good enough for a top 4 team out of the water. Unless you're suggesting that Brown isn't good enough for a top 4 side either?'"
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[i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "No it is not difficult, I want a quality h/back who is capable of taking our team to the top, not an average one like Horney but one like Rangi Chase now trot along and compare those stats and you will understand why I want this....really it isn't that difficult!'"
Has Brown been good enough to take his side into the top 4 and play for England or not? |
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| Quote: Kosh "Has Brown been good enough to take his side into the top 4 and play for England or not?'"
England thought so as did a certain Aussie super dooper coach Marfa has said in the past was someone they would like to see at Hull, so clearly he is clueless too |
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