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You really are fed up with it all aren't you, have you tried the samaritans.

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I am the fecking samaritans. All these FC fans ringing up make me feel like slitting my wrists

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Fair points and i'm not advocating the setting up of HISA as such, i just feel we need some sort of supporters organisation to enable us to post an objective view on things, i'm not confident that FC voices are the vehicle for this.

In my opinion such an organisation should be on the go despte the vortunes of the club, most if not all football clubs have supporters associations.

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Quote: Wollagong Way "Fair points and i'm not advocating the setting up of HISA as such, i just feel we need some sort of supporters organisation to enable us to post an objective view on things, i'm not confident that FC voices are the vehicle for this.

In my opinion such an organisation should be on the go despte the vortunes of the club, most if not all football clubs have supporters associations.'"


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Quote: Wollagong Way "Fair points and i'm not advocating the setting up of HISA as such, i just feel we need some sort of supporters organisation to enable us to post an objective view on things, i'm not confident that FC voices are the vehicle for this.

In my opinion such an organisation should be on the go despte the vortunes of the club, most if not all football clubs have supporters associations.'"
i agree with you but the club already have an outlet to speak with a fans organisation, i just know they wont speak with anyone else. Like i say maybe more pressure needs putting on the club from fc voices and more meetings? but its upto the fans to pose the questions to the voices members

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Quote: BlackNwhite "Like i say maybe more pressure needs putting on the club from fc voices '"


Wont happen , simple as

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Quote: Hutchie "Wont happen , simple as'"
so its down to the members of fc voices for not pressuring the club?

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Quote: BlackNwhite "so its down to the members of fc voices for not pressuring the club?'"


FC Voices is a vehicle set up by the club so that they can be controlled how they see fit. HISA on the other hand is, or was, completely independant and would make themselves heard one way or another.

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Quote: Irregs #12 "FC Voices is a vehicle set up by the club so that they can be controlled how they see fit. HISA on the other hand is, or was, completely independant and would make themselves heard one way or another.'"
i know this but the people on the voices committee can speak out, should fans ask them to?

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Quote: BlackNwhite "i know this but the people on the voices committee can speak out, should fans ask them to?'"


but as it is controlled by the board they can control what they say, or what they listen to.

Back in HISA's day they got into the local media, produced newsletters, and had the fanzine as media outlets to get the fans to take a stand, and it would need something similar again.

I dont actually know what people are so upset about tbh (beating Salford away with £1 million worth of salary cap not playing) is a pretty good effort in my book!!

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Quote: Irregs #12 "FC Voices is a vehicle set up by the club so that they can be controlled how they see fit. HISA on the other hand is, or was, completely independant and would make themselves heard one way or another.'"

Not strictly true that, is it? And rather disrespectful of the people on FC Voices who are giving up their own time to do something to at least [itry[/i and address the issue of communication with the board.

And HISA only has as much power as the fans are willing to give it. On current evidence that's the square root of f'kall. There's hardly been a rush of folk willing to take up Hutchie's offer to take over HISA, has there?

Much easier to just stand on the sidelines and snipe at people who have at least got off their backsides and done [isomething.[/i icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Kosh "Not strictly true that, is it? And rather disrespectful of the people on FC Voices who are giving up their own time to do something to at least [itry[/i and address the issue of communication with the board.

And HISA only has as much power as the fans are willing to give it. On current evidence that's the square root of f'kall. There's hardly been a rush of folk willing to take up Hutchie's offer to take over HISA, has there?

Much easier to just stand on the sidelines and snipe at people who have at least got off their backsides and done [isomething.[/i icon_smile.gif

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Quote: BlackNwhite "kosh are u a member of fc voices? if so, are there certain questions that just wont be asked or answered by the board. i mean the type of questions maybe hisa would of asked? Im not having a go, just trying to find out what goes on I'm not a member, but I've been involved with organisations that do a similar job in other fields and I know how it goes. I also know how hard it is when you are an unpaid volunteer group with little backing from your supposed support base trying to do the best you can in meetings with a larger organisation.

FC Voices ask the questions that fans send to them. If the fans don't want to engage with them then their usefulness is limited. HISA has the same trouble - it only has as much power as fans are willing to give it. There's nothing magic about the name or the organisation as such.

And if you want to know what happens at FC Voices meetings, why not ask them? Their names are hardly secret and many of them post on here. Despite what you seem to think, the members are just fans who want to do something for the rest of us - and who have actually succeeded in changing things for the better in a number of cases.

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Quote: Kosh "I'm not a member, but I've been involved with organisations that do a similar job in other fields and I know how it goes. I also know how hard it is when you are an unpaid volunteer group with little backing from your supposed support base trying to do the best you can in meetings with a larger organisation.

FC Voices ask the questions that fans send to them. If the fans don't want to engage with them then their usefulness is limited. HISA has the same trouble - it only has as much power as fans are willing to give it. There's nothing magic about the name or the organisation as such.

And if you want to know what happens at FC Voices meetings, why not ask them? Their names are hardly secret and many of them post on here. Despite what you seem to think, the members are just fans who want to do something for the rest of us - and who have actually succeeded in changing things for the better in a number of cases.'"


i dont think anything mate, im just trying to get a balanced veiwpoint of what goes on, im not even having ago at the members. im in favour of fc voices and would rather things went through there than having to set up an independant org. Im not an fc hater or a board hater, im just trying to understand why people are moaning so much lol

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