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| Quote: Hull-Neutral "By definition, Dr Allam is "dangerous" simply because he is wholly unpredictable and completely enigmatic!
And when you throw genuine anger into the pot too...well, who knows what will happen?
I completely agree that he comes out of this terribly, but that is not the issue here.
The issue is that, through no fault of the club, Hull FC have been caught in the crossfire of this potentially damaging fallout!
I would have thought that it was a 'given' that Pearson's sacking amid talk of lawyers has blown a hole in his medium-term business-plan of securing Hull FC a reduced rental agreement, wouldn't you?
And, like it or not, wearing his Stadium Management Committe 'hat', Allam holds the balance of power here regards the stadium!
He has ways and means of making life very difficult for Pearson personally and (through
association), Hull FC too!
People can bury their heads in the sand all they like, but this is the reality!'"
You sound increasingly more hopeful than incredulous.
Other than there will probably be no new SMC agreement - which most of us were becoming resigned to anyway as time went on - would you care to elaborate on the section I have underlined?
The existing agreement holds. Hull will pay their bills and the the SMC will fulfill their obligations to Hull under the existing contract. End of. I doubt there's very little need for the two to cross paths at all. I certainly don't think Duffen spent many minutes if any with Rule and there was no love lost there, either. How will (and why would) the new situation pan out any different?
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| Quote: Basil Fawlty "Have you thought what may be the outcome if it was the Allam's money Pearson was playing with to buy into FC?'"
No need to think that way
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| Quote: WormInHand "You sound increasingly more hopeful than incredulous.
Other than there will probably be no new SMC agreement - which most of us were becoming resigned to anyway as time went on - would you care to elaborate on the section I have underlined?
The existing agreement holds. Hull will pay their bills and the the SMC will fulfill their obligations to Hull under the existing contract. End of. I doubt there's very little need for the two to cross paths at all. I certainly don't think Duffen spent many minutes if any with Rule and there was no love lost there, either. How will (and why would) the new situation pan out any different?'"
Fair point. I just think there is the potential for conflict rather than cooperation on fixture scheduling....training on the pitch etc.
If Pearson thought there was room for negotiation on reducing the rental agreement, what's to say Allam doesn't have the mandate to invoke the opposite?
The potential for conflict would become more pertinent if an Allam-owned Hull City ever reached the Premiership, in view of Karen Brady's recent comments.
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| Quote: Hull-Neutral "Fair point. I just think there is the potential for conflict rather than cooperation on fixture scheduling....training on the pitch etc.'"
City have to play their matches and Hull theirs - that's the agreement, Allam can't dictate otherwise. The Football League and the RFL will set them. Hull take priority for scheduling any additional fixtures at the end of our season and City's needs come second, and vice versa. That's in the existing agreements. Neither team train on the pitch.
Quote: Hull-Neutral "If Pearson thought there was room for negotiation on reducing the rental agreement, what's to say Allam doesn't have the mandate to invoke the opposite?'"
Both have to agree to negotiate on anything. Obviously. Allam can't make an arbitrary decision to change anything affecting Hull.
Quote: Hull-Neutral "The potential for conflict would become more pertinent if an Allam-owned Hull City ever reached the Premiership, in view of Karen Brady's recent comments.'"
So many ifs and only one fact - City ain't making the Premiership under Allam, my love. He can't spend the cash. He can't have the KC. This is kind of what the last couple of days have been about, bless poor Nicky.....
But if by some miracle in the future they did - and by another miracle Brady's delusions became reality, then City would have to find themselves a new home. Or build us one.
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| Could the Council get rid of Allam as Chairman of the SMC ?
Maybe a new job for AP?
Lets face it the Council are no big fans of Allam.
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| Maybe a couple of rounds of "There's only one Adam Pearson" on Saturday night will show our owner what we think of him.
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| Will Pearson put himself on Hull FCs books now that he is out of work?
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| Quote: Hull-Neutral "By definition, Dr Allam is "dangerous" simply because he is wholly unpredictable and completely enigmatic!
And when you throw genuine anger into the pot too...well, who knows what will happen?
I completely agree that he comes out of this terribly, but that is not the issue here.
The issue is that, through no fault of the club, Hull FC have been caught in the crossfire of this potentially damaging fallout!
I would have thought that it was a 'given' that Pearson's sacking amid talk of lawyers has blown a hole in his medium-term business-plan of securing Hull FC a reduced rental agreement, wouldn't you?
And, like it or not, wearing his Stadium Management Committe 'hat', Allam holds the balance of power here regards the stadium!
He has ways and means of making life very difficult for Pearson personally and (through
association), Hull FC too!
People can bury their heads in the sand all they like, but this is the reality!'"
This is not the reality, its something I can only assume you wish to be the case,
Regarding your point about the rent. The rent was renegociated approx 3 years ago. Its doubtful there would be a break clause until the end of year 5 (if there is a break clause at all)
The Allams statement clearly indicates that it was their intention to run Hull City with the same business principles as any other part of their business empire. Are you suggesting that they would act in an unethical manner??
You invite criticism as you are clearly the least neutral contributor on this forum. You have no verted interest in Hull FC and only post when, in your eyes, there is an ill conceived opportunity to reval in potential doom and gloom for Hull FC.
Which ever club it is you follow, Hull City or hkr (or both) I'd be far more concerned about the holes blown in the bows of Hull City's ability to turn a potentially promotion winning season in February into season end also rans. When listening to Barmby's comments (which RH used) the term he used was "things are not always as they seem". Allams have responded with "Money was available". Yes, but how much? This was City's second season away from the premier league, which mean snext season the parachute payment diminishes significantly. IT does beg the question as to where this seasons parachute payment has gone? Perhaps it answers (partly) why the Allams personal wealth has risen by £130 in 12 months. Perhaps more importantly, if there wealth is so great, why didnt they let Barbmy have sufficent to gain promotion? Or, with that level of wealth, why not call the councils bluff and build at Brough?
If you do actually follow rovers, then where do you start. Its a basket case of a business which has effectively already sold itself out to Allam due to the £1m he loaned. You know the way he didnt want to favout one RL team over the other.
Is Allam dangerous, you bet he is. More faces than the equipment used on a craps table and that he doesnt actually know what he is going to do next.
But thankfully he is not directly involved with Hull FC, so I am not overtly worried
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| Quote: HFC Boy "Could the Council get rid of Allam as Chairman of the SMC ?
Maybe a new job for AP?
Lets face it the Council are no big fans of Allam.'"
Don't think they can. He owns the SMC.
Not sure if there'd even be any scope for them to step in if Allam decided to sell the SMC (if he decided to sell City), as ownership of the SMC would be critical to any new owner of City, I would have thought.
One of the stupidest mistakes the old board made was declining to have representation of Hull FC on the SMC board. Bet Pearson couldn't believe it then and I bet he can't believe it now for completely opposite reasons.
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| It sounds like pearson has a case for wrongfull dismissil according to hdm so he will get whats due to him!. Hopefully allam will pay out big time for shatting on barmby also!! Digusting the way he has treated a Hull lad wanting the best for his home town club!!
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| Quote: SUPERHULL123 "It sounds like pearson has a case for wrongfull dismissil according to hdm so he will get whats due to him!. Hopefully allam will pay out big time for shatting on barmby also!! Digusting the way he has treated a Hull lad wanting the best for his home town club!!'"
Did think Barmby was walking a fine line though with his comments. More to all this than meets the eye IMO - Pearson and Barmby do seem to have a bromance.
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| Quote: The_Mighty_F90 "Will Pearson put himself on Hull FCs books now that he is out of work?'"
Who's Will Pearson, the presumptive little nomark?
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Did think Barmby was walking a fine line though with his comments. More to all this than meets the eye IMO - Pearson and Barmby do seem to have a bromance.
Well lets see when Allam's supplier wont supply.......
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| Quote: WormInHand "Who's Will Pearson, the presumptive little nomark?'"
Yes, according to Gary Hetherington.
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| Quote: The_Mighty_F90 "Yes, according to Gary Hetherington.
Yes what?
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