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| The way I see it is that we're in 'the 4th best' position right now, I certainly don’t think Hull Fc are the 4th best team in the league.
Does anyone think we have the 4th best coach as well? 
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| Quote Locko's Luck="Locko's Luck"The way I see it is that we're in 'the 4th best' position right now, I certainly don’t think Hull Fc are the 4th best team in the league.
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Hallelujah.
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| Quote Locko's Luck="Locko's Luck"The way I see it is that we're in 'the 4th best' position right now, I certainly don’t think Hull Fc are the 4th best team in the league.
Does anyone think we have the 4th best coach as well?
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Better than 4th best obviously, given the position the team is when they are apparently not a 4th best team. 
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| Quote Locko's Luck="Locko's Luck"The way I see it is that we're in 'the 4th best' position right now, I certainly don’t think Hull Fc are the 4th best team in the league.
Does anyone think we have the 4th best coach as well?
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sums up my thoughts exactly, and no i dont think we have the 4th best coach!!! lol
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"So you're flatly denying that after 19 games of the season we're not the 4th best team? Also Wigan are not the best?
I honestly thought you had more about you Jake.'"
I'm flatly denying it because league position isn't evidence with 1/3 of the season to go of exactly how strong a side is in relation to the rest of the teams. Are you suggesting that warrington are 2nd best team despite not being able to beat any of the top 5 teams except us?
This isn't about having a go at agar, it's about common sense. If we finish 4th, then we'll be the 4th best team this season, likewise 5th, 6th, 3rd or whatever, but not with only 2/3rds of teh season gone.
I would have thought someone with an education as great as yours would understand this very simple concept
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| Quote ComeOnYouUll="ComeOnYouUll"Before the Catalans game in response to hullbg saying it was a game we should win comfortably you said
What was this based on? The top three in the league?'"
Which all goes to prove that league positions aren't necessarily the best indicator of how strong a team is. Going by yours, and most other people's logic, we should have trounced cats, what with us being 4th best team and them being 14th
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| Quote bringbackbuck="bringbackbuck"My problem with the team is I don't think we play a game which is either attractive or well organised. I think we win games because we have some very powerful operators who are able, as indivduals, pull things out of the bag. How often do we really look dangerous in the way a Leeds, Warrington, Saints, Wigan do? I think we lack pace and guile right across the team. And I would say we don't look like we're able to structure an attack half the time; and that is the coach's fault.
We're in 4th by right but only a fool would suggest we are the fourth best team in SL.'"
This thread is full of fools. They're so desperate to defend agar they've left common sense in the changing rooms
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Which all goes to prove that league positions aren't necessarily the best indicator of how strong a team is. Going by yours, and most other people's logic, we should have trounced cats, what with us being 4th best team and them being 14th'"
Doesn't quite tally with what you said on Friday:
Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Challenge or cannon fodder?
Was hoping for the latter but can see us getting bogged down in the former, particularly now they're getting a few back on the "island".'"
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| Quote Uncle Junior="Uncle Junior" does anyone have a reasoned argument against what I'm saying?'"
Od course they don't, there isn't one, except the concept of the 4th placed team being the 4th best midway through the season only counts in Rugby League. All other sports use a common sense approach
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Yes.
You're making a subjective judgement of our worth/quality compared to the other teams in SL. Our league table position is an objective assessment. It's also the only assessment that counts.
Right now we are the 4th best side in SL based on the only criteria that matters - league position. Simplez. No amount of sophistry will change that indisputable fact.'"
The fact we are 4th is indeed a FACT. The assertion that we are the 4th best team is opinion only until the season finishes
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"This thread is full of fools. They're so desperate to defend agar they've left common sense in the changing rooms'"
Bull.
Personally I was against Agar's appointment from the start and my position hasn't changed. However I can rationally accept improvements that have been made.
Your view that the league table means nothing in terms of teams' relative strengths until the season is over is clearly rubbish.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Where we end up will dictate on what we can claim to be.
You're not right and rarely are
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I'm right more times than you bud, and this thread is a shining example
So by paulm's logic after 18 games the league shows how strong you are but after 27 rounds it doesn't 
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