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| Quote: Plum Bob "I posted mine before reading your later posts with the information. However, even then using the NHS statistics the deaths in your age range are still higher than the figure you quote.
Here’s an interesting take on it.
The data in the link quite clearly shows that of the 1,389 deaths with no underlying condition, where Covid was present, 304 were under the age of 60.
I appreciate that these deaths only represent approx 75% of the total deaths. I think the data sample is however large enough to give the overall picture.
Thank you for the link to the article.
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| Quote: Large Paws "Typical Leftist political view. See verifiable statistics and refuse to believe them.
Nowhere have I said that the figures represent the whole picture, just that these are the NHS stats.'"
No you used the figures to prove your assertion that Covid-19 is not that much of a problem. Your take on the situation is way off the mark. You are also wrong in your assumption about my political views. You obviously make your decisions on more than one issue based on inadequate information.
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| Lies, damned lies, and statistics, or something like that, Mark Twain
Let’s hope all the boys showing symptoms fully recover, and our game can once again in the dreaded 20/20 can move on.
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| Quote: Keiththered "No you used the figures to prove your assertion that Covid-19 is not that much of a problem. Your take on the situation is way off the mark. You are also wrong in your assumption about my political views. You obviously make your decisions on more than one issue based on inadequate information.'"
I, in no way suggested it isn't much of a problem.
The statistic I used was to highlight that, those with no underlying conditions, under 60 years of age, are significantly at less risk, of a poor outcome. By the way I fall in to the higher risk group, by way of being 60 plus.
We'll agree to disagree on our interpretation of the stats.
Hopefully all those at the club with the virus will come through it with no lasting problems.
Regards
Donald.
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| Quote: Keiththered "What statistics and facts? Non are quoted. That is typical Trump. You seem to belong to the same school of thought.'"
I've already pulled up ONS for them spreading lies/fake news and made several complaints regards their unlawful misuse of people dying by incorrect use of language, they continue to use the word 'FROM' or 'OF' when the thousands of doctors across the country have clearly stated that it's only deaths that have a non isolated virus mentioned in the death certificate and are not underlying cause at all for the vast majority. ONS are deliberately, and to me unlawfully manipulating deaths, producing documents with false/misleading information on it that contradicts the actual register of deaths.
Dying WITH is not the same as dying FROM, that's before you even get to deaths being attributed with no test, deaths attributed instead of pneumonia (as per the governments own directive in March re filling in death certificates), that's before you even get to the false positives, the force/pressure on doctors to put down C.19 when it's clear that the deceased had serious underlying condition/s.
This was even admitted by Prof Neil Ferguson that the vast majority who would die would die no matter what because their underlying health was so bad, his words not mine.
You only ever attribute/code a death by underlying condition, you cannot count it twice or deliberately count it as something else as the government have been doing and indeed all the shills making out that there is a pandemic when there isn't/
More people of died from removing health care and they die from their existing conditions than there have from any theoretical new virus strain.
Do you know how many people were tested in April for influenza in England and Wales? Well in one week the governments own document showed that they tested TWO people for flu, across the whole country, if you test millions then of course you will get more positives of something with a test so flawed as to be useless.
As for Trump, you clearly don't have a clue, simply wade in with the TRUMP/BORIS/any other public figure whom you think is hated and ally me to them, I'm surprised you didn't use Hitler in all honesty!
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| 12 now, one staff member from Saints, just glad Bumpy knows better.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "That’s them told then, eh? I bet they feel reet daft now.'"
Ah right, so when a government organisation spouts propaganda/fake news you just say nothing. gotcha, it's you who looks daft by attacking someone who cares about our society and wants to make a point like others that it's not acceptable for government to lie and decieve..
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| at the risk of getting back to rugby matters rlhererl is a slightly worrying story concerning a french union team who had a covid outbreak, albeit a bit bigger than what has occurred in hull. seems some players have suffered a bit more longer term damage, though by no means permanent it may affect the timescales for them taking to the playing arena again
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| Quote: 48756c6c20 524c4643 "Ah right, so when a government organisation spouts propaganda/fake news you just say nothing. gotcha, it's you who looks daft by attacking someone who cares about our society and wants to make a point like others that it's not acceptable for government to lie and decieve..'"
Quote: 48756c6c20 524c4643 "The Office for National Statistics (ONS) is the UK's largest independent producer of official statistics and is the recognised national statistical institute for the UK. It is responsible for collecting and publishing statistics related to the economy, population and society at national, regional and local levels.'"
Give it a rest bumpy, please.
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| Quote: 48756c6c20 524c4643 "Ah right, so when a government organisation spouts propaganda/fake news you just say nothing. gotcha, it's you who looks daft by attacking someone who cares about our society and wants to make a point like others that it's not acceptable for government to lie and decieve..'"
I think you’re wrong and what seems to be the main thrust of your analysis is nonsensical.
there might be a debate about the optimal way to present the data, but your interpretation and methodology wouldn’t be a front runner.
I mean, maybe I shouldn’t be a snotgob about it. Maybe it is no worse than a flat-earth theory. On the other hand, it remains a major and pressing public health issue - and you’re chucking about some pretty hefty accusations.
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| If only they hadn't worn bicycle helmets, it would have all been OK.
I very occasionally like this game.
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| Quote: Sandro II Terrorista "If only they hadn't worn bicycle helmets, it would have all been OK.
I very occasionally like this game.'"
A nice piece of balloon popping Sandro. Well done!!
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| Quote: Sandro II Terrorista "If only they hadn't worn bicycle helmets, it would have all been OK.
I very occasionally like this game.'"
The helmets will send him into meltdown.
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