Wasn't we talking about the squads as opposed to this club is bigger than this club rubbish.

You said Hull have a top 4 squad, i can see why people think we're on a par with Hudds but for me its just our 17 thats on a par with them. But to say we are on a par squad wise with any of the top 4 teams is crazy imo.

I think it is a bit embarrassing to call ourselves a BIG club, I mean come on let's be honest we have not even won a play-off game for 3 years!

A financially sound club yes , a successful club no

Were like Newcastle great fans just don't appreciate us and don't know how to run the club

Disagree they do know how to run the club that is why financially we are in a good scene....however they do not appear to know how to be successful on the pitch, hence not winning a play-off in the last 3 years.

We were, until I said our 17 can challenge the 'bigger teams', meaning bigger clubs.

I believe our squad, when fully fit and playing at their full potential, can challenge the top 4.

Look at both the clubs past 5-10 year history. We have won the CC cup, runners up of the CC cup, and been the only one of only 5 teams to get to the Grand Final. Not Wire. Not Hudds.

I would class us as a big club.

You said our sqaud is a top 4 squad and yet you havent said which 3 squads are better than ours.

So whos above us squad wise ?

Challenge Top 4.

I don't believe we have a chance against Wigan, that's for sure. Saints we have shown we can beat. We have a recent bad track record against Leeds, we just can't seem to beat them. One of our best performances last season was against Wire, with a flattering scoreline in their favour. We can beat them and Hudds if we go about it in the right way.

The way we are playing we don't stand a chance against any of these teams, and yes we beat saints twice last year but we only won 2 out of 8 against the top four of wire, saints Wigan and Leeds and 3 out of 10 if you include hudds that to me isn't good enough, and this highlights agar's downfall for me personally.

Wire have won the challenge cup 2 years running, we won it once and lost it once, we also lost the G/final..So basically Wire have won silverware twice, and us once and you consider us a Big Club
I bet they are shiitting it in case they get us in the draw

Yet on your 1st comment you said we have a top 4 squad nothing about challenging.

Also if we beat the big 4 and finish 5th we aint part of the top 4 are we ?

That was something I said to hullandbroncos in person, hence the winks etc.

I believe we can challenge the top 4, somehow that's bothering you because we don't agree on it!

There was no wink in the post buy hey ho.

Its not bothering me at all i just wondered how you think our squad is a top 4 squad when we have the likes of Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Warrington.

You're right Tommy, we should be able to challenge for the top four, we did last year. If we want to break into the top four of Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Wire then we will probably need a new coach imo.