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| Quote: Mrs Barista "You can tell me a million times. IMO a specialist full back can deal with the high ball. I'd be fine with Briscoe's "averageness" if that meant being able to defuse a high ball, clear his goal line, defend courageously and back up Richard Horne for try after try
god i miss them moments so much,ahh the memories 
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| Quote: wolfie "god i miss them moments so much,ahh the memories ![]()
Seemed to be at least once a game. We used to wonder whether the opposition watched any videos - the number of tries we scored off Briscoe on Horne's shoulder and Cooke's cut-out pass was silly. 
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| Quote: Robbo4 "I'd just like to throw into the mixing pot that this long held belief that Motu is somehow a hooker is complete rubbish IMO. He cant pass for a start.'"
Cant pass, cant catch, cant tackle
So what the hell is he doing on a rugby pitch |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Seemed to be at least once a game. We used to wonder whether the opposition watched any videos - the number of tries we scored off Briscoe on Horne's shoulder and Cooke's cut-out pass was silly. ![]()
And how we miss it 
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[quote="Wellsy13":1juz9zgo]To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!  [/quote:1juz9zgo]
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
[quote="blakeysrobin":1juz9zgo]Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback[/quote:1juz9zgo]:21737.jpg |
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| Quote: FM "Cant pass, cant catch, cant tackle
So what the hell is he doing on a rugby pitch ![]()
Can't do any of that yet has still achieved far more in his life than you.
Seriously though, a player who can't pass, can't catch, can't tackle doesn't play for the world champions. You may not rate him as a fb but you can't doubt his talent as a player and if you can't see what the hell he is doing on a rugby pitch then what the hel are you doing in a rugby ground?
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| Quote: Matty_HullFC "Can't do any of that yet has still achieved far more in his life than you. ![]()
you might want to rethink that boy
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| Quote: trys'r'us "Tony is a fullback. Again, like it or not, that's his best position. Always has been and always will be. And he offered/offers more than Briscoe did, so he was, and would have remained/did remain, first choice. He's not very good at hooker. He's not anywhere near good enough to be playing there regularly and he would be behind Lee and Berrigan for that role. He's not a winger (interesting the people who apparently themselves when he has to take a catch at fullback would be happy to see him on the wing, where it is even easier to target the player with kicks) and he isn't a centre either. He's not played in either role for very long and for good reason. The only other position he could possibly play in the backs is at 6, and the last few games he's had there (for us, NZ and Cas) weren't, to say the least, impressive performances. Again, just one more time in case it finally sinks in, he's a fullback and has been throughout his career.
Finally, Briscoe's not a 'very good' fullback. He's an average, 'solid' fullback, the sort of fullback we seem to persist with in this country and the sort of fullback that will continue to see us embarrassed at the top level.
If you're happy with accepting average 'solidity', that's your choice. It's not mine though, and nor is it the choice of the top coaches/clubs in the game.'"
Possibily the biggest load of rubbish I've read on this forum in a while.
If the arguement is between Briscoe and Motu in terms of an all round player, then there is a debate, but in the full back position Briscoe wins hands down. |
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[quote="Wellsy13":1juz9zgo]To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really! [/quote:1juz9zgo]
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
[quote="blakeysrobin":1juz9zgo]Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback[/quote:1juz9zgo]:21737.jpg |
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[quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "You can tell me a million times. '"
I'll certainly try.
Quote: Mrs Barista "IMO a specialist full back can deal with the high ball. '"
Something which Tony does on the vast majority of occasions. And it's a fairly minor part of the game anyway. It's not often that you'll get more than two or three a game going to the fullback and if he deals with 90% (I'd be alright with less, TBH, if they don't cost us) that's fine with me. As I've said plenty of times, it's an area he could be stronger in, but it's nowhere near the problem it's made out to be.
Quote: Mrs Barista "I'd be fine with Briscoe's "averageness" if that meant being able to defuse a high ball, clear his goal line, defend courageously and back up Richard Horne for try after try ![]()
Once you have lived in the real world I will let you come back and reconsider superiority young man
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Seemed to be at least once a game. We used to wonder whether the opposition watched any videos - the number of tries we scored off Briscoe on Horne's shoulder and Cooke's cut-out pass was silly. ![]()
I can actualy picture some of them now
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[quote="Wellsy13":1juz9zgo]To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really! [/quote:1juz9zgo]
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
[quote="blakeysrobin":1juz9zgo]Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback[/quote:1juz9zgo]:21737.jpg |
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| Quote: FM "Once you have lived in the real world I will let you come back and reconsider superiority young man'"
If you're as old as you sound, by the time I've lived in the real world will you still be here? |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I don't think there will. Tony wanted to play full back when both he and Briscoe were at the club, and as a result Briscoe was played out of position had some relatively unsuccessful games at wing and centre, because he is an out and out full back. My suspicion is that, had Tony not been at the club, we'd have probably offered Briscoe a bit more cash and he'd still be here. That's why there is this "head to head" thing, as effectively the club backed Tony for FB (and I don't think Sharp really rated Briscoe either).'"
Tony went to FB when Briscoe was out injured. Nothing to do with him 'wanting' the position or Briscoe being moved aside to make way. He kept Briscoe out because his form there was very good - something conveniently forgotten nowadays.
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