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| Remember when he dared to criticise some of the local lads for underperforming? The local fan club were on his back for daring to have a go at their beloved even when it was warranted.The lad can’t win
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| Quote: jimmyfivebellies "Remember when he dared to criticise some of the local lads for underperforming? The local fan club were on his back for daring to have a go at their beloved even when it was warranted.The lad can’t win'"
Exactly that, although he’s a fan he isn’t afraid to say it how it is. But hull boys club don’t like that when he dares to question anyone from a HU postcode.
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| To be honest I don't think Dan Tomlinson had shied away from saying it as it is and at times has for me been brutally honest about all aspects of the club, from the owner, Coaches, players etc. For me in the most part he says it as it is and has rarely sugar coated anything. In a season that has been one embarrassment after another its hardly surprising may of his articles are almost copy and paste as nothing much has changed, other than the player coming and goings. He has at times looked to highlight any positives he could but lets be honest these aren't exactly in plentiful supply so a little artistic license at times so to speak is understandable.
Realistically if it weren't for Dan we'd likely hear very little in terms of the club as they are still very much (for me anyway) lacking the connection to the fans despite Myler stating that was on his list of priorities to rectify.
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| From Standing in the park selling a fanzine he had spent all week to produce, to taking part in the then fans organisation, to a dedicated podcast on the team, to the Mail, as an FC nut he aint done bad. its good for me to know that a fan is reporting for the Mail and one who gets what it is like for us lot and who isn't afraid to hold the clubs feet to the flames and sometimes say exactly what we are thinking.
He was close to being disposed of by the owners of the paper a while back, ( because I noted, that the circulation of the printed tome had sunk from 177,000 a few years ago to around 7,000 now and it is real trouble) but instead of chucking in the towel he stuck it out, argued his case and after pressure from several angles he got retained on a temporary basis which is still as far as I know his situation.
I agree completely with Chris that if it weren't for Dan we would hear next to nothing about our club. Just compare the two or three bits we get from him every day and the zilch we get from the Club. Look at today after a despicable performance on Friday we still hear nothing, all we get is Grixy wringing his hands every post match but no words of consolation, explanation or even empathy from above for us all? I know Degsy is a dick but at least the Leigh fans hear from him!!! Trouble is I guess some just have to have someone to have a go at, and Dan falls into that category, quite frankly I don't know about you but my weekly life as an FC fanatic and my discussions about it with my pals throughout, has been pretty much cut and paste this year anyway!
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| Yes, Dan is a true Black & White and deserves credit for telling it how it is.
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| I see today he's floated the fact that the Club are shopping Sao around Super league with a view to bringing in an NRL middle. ironically that's something some of his own protagonists have wanted to happen. Once again he's letting a bit of a cat out of the bag in advance no doubt thanks to the contacts he and Smailsey have amongst a couple of CE's and some of the players agent and what does he do, he verifies it and then tell us all about it. No doubt the club won't like it but he's a fan, it might not come to anything but you can bet your life its happening, and he's got a blooming good record on such early disclosures over his time at the Mail as well but obviously some would rather see him gone and us not get them.
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| I doubt he's writing about anything the club don't want him to write about
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "I see today he's floated the fact that the Club are shopping Sao around Super league with a view to bringing in an NRL middle. ironically that's something some of his own protagonists have wanted to happen. Once again he's letting a bit of a cat out of the bag in advance no doubt thanks to the contacts he and Smailsey have amongst a couple of CE's and some of the players agent and what does he do, he verifies it and then tell us all about it. No doubt the club won't like it but he's a fan, it might not come to anything but you can bet your life its happening, and he's got a blooming good record on such early disclosures over his time at the Mail as well but obviously some would rather see him gone and us not get them.'"
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| It does seem strange that myler said one of the things he needed to do was to bring the club closer to the fans yet he's done nothing at all about it
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "It does seem strange that myler said one of the things he needed to do was to bring the club closer to the fans yet he's done nothing at all about it'"
Obviously James Clark was the media man and now he's gone nobodies doing it
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| If Myler did a few more interviews would we just criticise him for saying the same thing over and over?
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| Dan actually touched on this in the latest addition on the podcast him and Matt Shaw host regarding the difficulty of his position, he is first and foremost a fan, and from his tone on the podcast every time i have listened it is clear that it is hurting him just as much as it hurts us. However it is important to remember that this is his profession, and that maintaining a relationship with the club is vital for his work.
Having said this, it does get very repetitive reading essentially the same article week in week out, in recent weeks his articles with players all revolve around the hard pre-season to come. I get the impression that the players simply do not care about the rest of this season, as reflected on last friday's performance, which again, is completely unacceptable.
For Myler, I think he has spoken well and updated probably as much as he can. As mentioned above, it really does feel like this club just wants to get the next 10 days out the way and start on a clean slate, if from there we see more of an effort to bridge the gap between the club and it's supporters we will have to wait and see.
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| Just been on hull live and our “coach” has nearly put me to sleep with his assessment.Tomlinson has laid into the team and club as a whole again but he doesn’t criticise Grix at all.Im all for the shower of e that are tarnishing the great shirt getting it but why isn’t Grix??
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| Crazy number of articles from Dan this off season - how marvellous.
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| Do the HDM still cover HKR?
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| Quote: Dave K. "Do the HDM still cover HKR?'"
nope, our reporter left so we only see fc articles
its refreshing to see so many articles about a team who sat 11th and finished on 6 points compared to a team who saw a grand final
how many articles can dan do at 6am with the title 'carty has laid out a challenge' snooze fest
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "nope, our reporter left so we only see fc articles
its refreshing to see so many articles about a team who sat 11th and finished on 6 points compared to a team who saw a grand final
how many articles can dan do at 6am with the title 'carty has laid out a challenge' snooze fest'"
Bigger club. Start winning trophies and you may get more coverage.
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| Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "Biggar club. Start winning trophies and you may get more coverage.'"
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "funny that pal'"
Just thought I'd give you some Christmas cheer.
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "funny that pal'"
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| Quote: Dave K. "Do the HDM still cover HKR?'"
They got a new reporter in who somehow managed the incredible accomplishment of actually been worse than Appleyard. However I barely see his articles anymore. Everything Rovers related seems to come from Shaw and his ridiculous bias (but no suprise considering the club funded him a trip to Tenerife last pre season (which is just weird in itself)).
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "nope, our reporter left so we only see fc articles '" Such a shame.
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its refreshing to see so many articles about a team who sat 11th'" Big 3 team according to Nigel Wood, just reflective of that I guess.
Quote: Theeaststander1 "compared to a team who saw a grand final'" I mean, we all *saw* a grand final. Only Wigan competed in it though
Quote: Theeaststander1 " how many articles can dan do at 6am with the title 'carty has laid out a challenge' snooze fest'" He probably schedules their automated posting. They do seem to attract plenty of views and comments though, good for the game.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Such a shame.
Big 3 team according to Nigel Wood, just reflective of that I guess.
I mean, we all *saw* a grand final. Only Wigan competed in it though
He probably schedules their automated posting. They do seem to attract plenty of views and comments though, good for the game.'"
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| The articles are a bit samey for sure but they are harmless.
Odd to think that KR's last trophy success predates not just the Hull Live website but Tim Berners-Lee's invention of the World Wide Web. Reports of that win would have been typed out on one of those new-fangled micro computers by the reporter of the day and eventually printed on the old Hull Daily Mail presses down Jameson Street.
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "nope, our reporter left so we only see fc articles
its refreshing to see so many articles about a team who sat 11th and finished on 6 points compared to a team who saw a grand final
how many articles can dan do at 6am with the title 'carty has laid out a challenge' snooze fest'"
Oh no not you again for heaven sakes 'your reporter left'?? Would he be the guy who just 6 months ago said he was an all time Rovers supporter who had just 'secured his dream job reporting on a club he loves'? Dream job obviously turned into a nightmare pretty quickly then, could it be that someone else associated with Rovers, has become disenchanted very quickly just as I would add we have all become with you! Merry Christmas!
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