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Quote: easthull fc fan "Depending on the game/who its against ie a derby we could easy have 3k fans at rovers.'"

Playing your bitter inner city rivals is the only way you would get 3000 fans to travel to the KC on a Friday night.

Saturday & Sunday games are different but you was under the impression that a team like Halifax was going to bring twice the amount that they get for a home fixture!

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Quote: pokerface "Playing your bitter inner city rivals is the only way you would get 3000 fans to travel to the KC on a Friday night.

Saturday & Sunday games are different but you was under the impression that a team like Halifax was going to bring twice the amount that they get for a home fixture!'"

Yes but i was meaning a SL crowd from fax there gates would be up if they was in the top flight as would fevs, we was talking to there fans at Whitings testimonial, these are giant clubs what i think deserve a bash at the big time with actual fans that go to home games & away games spending money on tickets,kits,food & drink,fuel its all good for the game & the economy. imo.

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Quote: easthull fc fan "Yes but i was meaning a SL crowd from fax there gates would be up if they was in the top flight as would fevs, we was talking to there fans at Whitings testimonial, these are giant clubs what i think deserve a bash at the big time with actual fans that go to home games & away games spending money on tickets,kits,food & drink,fuel its all good for the game & the economy. imo.'"


But people spending far more on plane and train tickets is bad for the economy? :s

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "But people spending far more on plane and train tickets is bad for the economy?

What catalan fans spend on planes or trains? i must have missed them fri night........mind you my eyes are not what they was.

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Quote: easthull fc fan "Yes but i was meaning a SL crowd from fax there gates would be up if they was in the top flight as would fevs, we was talking to there fans at Whitings testimonial, these are giant clubs what i think deserve a bash at the big time with actual fans that go to home games & away games spending money on tickets,kits,food & drink,fuel its all good for the game & the economy. imo.'"


If they are good enough they will get a chance, however I think you are overstating what these clubs will bring to games. The last time Halifax were in Superleague they avaraged less than 3000. You will be lucky if you get 400 traveling to the KC. And 55% of the entire population of Featherstone would have to go every week to beat Catalans avarage.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "If they are good enough they will get a chance, however I think you are overstating what these clubs will bring to games. The last time Halifax were in Superleague they avaraged less than 3000. You will be lucky if you get 400 traveling to the KC. And 55% of the entire population of Featherstone would have to go every week to beat Catalans avarage.'"


Well 400 paying fans at £20 each is 8 grand, this is without food/drink etc, better then none, & i was just using fax & fev there is other big clubs.

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Quote: easthull fc fan "Yes but i was meaning a SL crowd from fax there gates would be up if they was in the top flight as would fevs, we was talking to there fans at Whitings testimonial, these are giant clubs what i think deserve a bash at the big time with actual fans that go to home games & away games spending money on tickets,kits,food & drink,fuel its all good for the game & the economy. imo.'"

But you are working off assumption now. You can't project how much growth those clubs will have unless you are a part of there marketing campaign.

All clubs should concentrate on growing there home fan base rather than worrying about how much the other team will bring. Just look at your playoff game in 2012 at home to Huddersfield, they are just over an hour down the motorway but your attendance on Friday night vs Catalan was much larger than your playoff game against the Giants!

I think London is a failed project and there days are numbered in SL but I think Catalan provide a lot for both SL and the growth of Rugby League in general. Keeping the game constricted to the M62 corridor is a crazy idea, it's like telling the rest of the world "this is our baby, so keep your noses out".
That's not how you grow a sport. How are you supposed to gain investment that way? You wouldn't have international sponsor interest by keeping it 'between us'.

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Quote: easthull fc fan "What catalan fans spend on planes or trains? i must have missed them fri night........mind you my eyes are not what they was.'"


Hull fans spend on going to Catalans? Catalans fans spending money on flights does nothing for the uk economy (though they do for the tourist industry)

Anyway, we tried the whole being a prudent business means you get a place thing, people didn't like it - it got booted out for p+r

Catalans, despite having very few away fans still have the 3rd (?) biggest budget of any team this year - proof away fans doesn't correlate success.

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Catalans have been a Super League success story, average gates of circa 10k, but there was never going to be travelling support, I think a few target a couple of games, Wigan being one, and quite a few come over for Magic weekend. Wouldn't want to lose the Catalan trip abroad which several clubs take a 1,000 fans or more to.

London a different story the nomads of RL, should have been a sucess and in the early days of Fulham it looked like it would be but several homes and rebrands later time for London to drop down to the Championship, grass roots down there is very strong a "London" team may come back at some point in the future.

Down to 12 SL teams at the end of this season so if as expected London drop out say with Bradford then at the end of SL 2015 Bradford / London / Fev / Halifax will be battling with the bottom SL team say Wakey for 1 place in SL. Think it will take at least another 3 or 4 years before we see a Fev or Fax make it to SL

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Quote: easthull fc fan "

I understand your point. I just think what both clubs do for the game in other areas outweighs the £10,000 that we could potentially gain in gate revenues over a season. Every little helps and all that, but £10k really is a little.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "

I just know fans avoid going to games because of lack of away fans/atmosphere, KC was very quiet on fri, which we knew was always going to be against catalans, it just always makes me think of the days at the boulevard when i more or less first started out, the Entat/Mackey days we was playing oldham,leigh,fax etc they seemed to have loads of fans when we used to swap ends behind threepney, i know the games developed so much but has it gone so much that we are trying to bring it on in the wrong areas? fans say we get no media attention why is this? maybe because the wider audience dont want it? our game is bringing the french on & mostly aussies who are not getting a game on there own shores, the decent british players are tempted away by healthy cheque books, & who can blame them, Hull is a massive rugby town with 2 clubs in SL & last season we had 5 teams in the top conference league yet but how many hull lads are plying there trade in kr or fc colours? not as many as there could be because we fetch in the quick fix foreigner, pushing home grown talent aside this making british international rugby stay as it is so close yet so far away.

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Quote: pokerface "Playing your bitter inner city rivals is the only way you would get 3000 fans to travel to the KC on a Friday night.
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We had that many at your dump when we played you last season on a Friday night.

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Quote: WIZEB "We had that many at your dump when we played you last season on a Friday night.'"

Are you sure about that? I beg to differ but I'll happily admit I'm wrong if you can back it up!

And I don't think there was any need for the 'dump' comment, I haven't put your nose out of place yet have I?

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Quote: pokerface "Are you sure about that? I beg to differ but I'll happily admit I'm wrong if you can back it up!

And I don't think there was any need for the 'dump' comment, I haven't put your nose out of place yet have I?'"


Away end was rammed with plenty down the sides. Couldn't have been far off.

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Quote: WIZEB "Away end was rammed with plenty down the sides. Couldn't have been far off.'"

That doesn't prove anything. The capacity for that stand is 5000, people might have spaced out more for all you know. Without official figures, there is no evidence for an argument here.

Don't make such a bold statement if you don't have the ammunition to back it up.


My comments to the OP wasn't about entering a slanging match between who takes more fans away from home, I was simply defending the justice of keeping Catalan in the league and what they bring to the table besides how many fans go to away games.

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