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| Quote: Robbo4 "The number of apperances could be down to injuries to other members of the squad though. His level of performances would also have an effect on his value. He believed in his ability to make an impact with regular game time and took the gamble of a shorter deal for a longer term gain.'"
His number of appearances would have been down to his own fitness first and foremost, as well as his ability to cement a regular first team slot. If there were no other injuries and he wasn't good enough to hold his place, then he wouldn't be deserving of improved terms.
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "His number of appearances would have been down to his own fitness first and foremost, as well as his ability to cement a regular first team slot. If there were no other injuries and he wasn't good enough to hold his place, then he wouldn't be deserving of improved terms.'"
Say Hall and Yeamo both picked up long term injuries which meant Whiting had to play the required number of games in his clause regardless of how he performed possibly due to how the serious injuries had effected him. Does he still get the increased terms?
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| Quote: Robbo4 "Say Hall and Yeamo both picked up long term injuries which meant Whiting had to play the required number of games in his clause regardless of how he performed possibly due to how the serious injuries had effected him. Does he still get the increased terms?'"
To begin with, you suggested it was about injury/fitness, and not ability. Secondly, he was playing well enough before his new contract to suggest that ability would not be an issue.
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "To begin with, you suggested it was about injury/fitness, and not ability. Secondly, he was playing well enough before his new contract to suggest that ability would not be an issue.'"
It is possible for a players stock to increase and therefore his market value and wage demands can increase. The club had doubts about his ability/fitness/injuries and therefore valued him slightly less than he believes he is worth. He took a 1 year deal to prove he is over any injury problems (value increases) and to show his importance to the team (value increases). Its therefore not unreasonable to suggest that Whiting prefered to take a 1 year deal in order to secure a much improved deal after 1 year rather than settle for an inferior deal for 2 years.
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| Quote: Robbo4 "It is possible for a players stock to increase and therefore his market value and wage demands can increase. '"
And therefore clauses can be put into a player's contract to cover this eventuality.
Quote: Robbo4 "The club had doubts about his ability/fitness/injuries and therefore valued him slightly less than he believes he is worth. He took a 1 year deal to prove he is over any injury problems (value increases) and to show his importance to the team (value increases). Its therefore not unreasonable to suggest that Whiting prefered to take a 1 year deal in order to secure a much improved deal after 1 year rather than settle for an inferior deal for 2 years.'"
You're right. Makes you wonder why everyone doesn't demand a one year contract! It seems much more likely that a one year deal is all that was offered because of the previous injury problems.
To be honest, I can't be bothered to argue about it any more. This is probably one of the least exciting discussions I've ever had.
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "And therefore clauses can be put into a player's contract to cover this eventuality.
You're right. Makes you wonder why everyone doesn't demand a one year contract! It seems much more likely that a one year deal is all that was offered because of the previous injury problems.
To be honest, I can't be bothered to argue about it any more. This is probably one of the least exciting discussions I've ever had.'"
Surely your not suggesting Whitings situation is the standard set of circumstances players find themselves in when looking to negotiate a new contract?
Your right though, it is a boring subject that was hardly worth mentioning in the first place.
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| Sign him up now please.....give him three years if he wants it. Another tremendous display tonight
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| Quote: Stanley Unwin "Sign him up now please.....give him three years if he wants it. Another tremendous display tonight'"
Amen to that. He's on fire this season.
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| Quote: Stanley Unwin "Sign him up now please.....give him three years if he wants it. Another tremendous display tonight'"
Totally agree! Give the guy what he wants and play him every week, the man is brilliant imo.
Well played Rich, another truly committed performance.
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| Put him in the middle of the pitch and let him dictate play from there.....wasted on the wing and centre.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Put him in the middle of the pitch and let him dictate play from there.....wasted on the wing and centre.'"
Agar has just read your comment and will take your advice
He starts at prop next week
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| Quote: Hutchie "Agar has just read your comment and will take your advice
He starts at prop next week icon_wink.gif'" In place of Moa
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| Did you see his knock on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...what a waster...Agar get rid of this waste of space..........
With Manu he is our most consistent player and thankful he is....top game Rich
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| What a player. Top boy.
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| Quote: Hutchie "Agar has just read your comment and will take your advice
He starts at prop next week
Agar can read? bloody hell, you'll be telling me he actually has coaching badges next, I think I need a lie down.
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