I’d sooner promote another youngster over him…he can go for me.

Grix has spoken a lot lately about overplaying the young players and how he hasn't had a lot of choice in some cases but to do so. In this context I can understand why he left Charles out. In a game where it was clear we would struggle to make metres and be under the pump for much of the game Charles would be onto a hiding to nothing so I don't think taking an 18-yr old out of the firing line for today was a bad call.

I get that but he played in a high intensity game in Catalan last week and was outstanding v Wigan…2 games which I’d have said he was on a even bigger hiding to nothing

Grix made the correct call regards to Charles, Wigan, Catalans then Saints all one after another, they're all physical teams are we're running with about 75% of our pack in the stands, missing a week or 2 every now and again will be better for him long term.

Its been obvious for ages
Decent defence but his lack of pace is finding him out
Need to move him on if we can

It makes you wonder just how many of the younger players we have coming through will actually make
S/L players when you see this lad and compare him to say Gardiner who in my opinion is Championship quality if that.
The same with Robertson who looks streets ahead of Moy.
We may have four or five worth working with for a couple of seasons but would be very surprised to see more than two make regular quality S/L players

All we can do is work with them and see if they progress….the biggest hopes are injured…Staveley looked the part,Dawson got a acl and if for that,he would have debuted..is the other one Wainhouse?….Robertson maybe streets ahead but will he stay the pace and Moy may overtake him….we don’t know but our youth set up is a lot better than before and ok,injuries are forcing us to play them but they are getting a chance unlike under Radford…we lost a raft

. Physically Charles isn’t ready yet to play week in week out.

Moy woukd have looked better playing behind saints pack.
Saints were so dominant that Robertson had time and space
Whereas moy didn’t.
I wouldn’t write off any of the young kids yet.
Let’s see how they go next season with bigger and better players around them and better conditioning.

I think Barron looks pretty good this year, and in a year or 2, he and Martin will be numbers 2 and 5 in the squad

Needs releasing!

No use to the team or club when he’s sat in the sin bin again. Having players like Fash in our 17 are the reason we are 11th.

I wouldn't realise him, certainly not for next season, but he shouldn't be a guaranteed a starting place in the 17, same with Lane.

That along with better use of quota spots will help turn us around

Only one quota spot yesterday is criminal.

Decent start to the game, first 20 we did OK but longer the game went on it was obvious we were going to struggle and we did. Just flat performance second half, flat atmosphere. I was just glad of the final whistle. The full back for saints had a very good game.

He's improved a lot and has out on a lot of muscle. I wouldent spend money on a winger til we've sorted our other 101 problems out

Last year I thought Barron would be championship at best but he's come on leaps and bounds over the last 12 months, I remember last season there was a game where he couldn't catch cold but this season he looks a different player, much bigger and more confident. Him and Martin could be our 2 and 5 for the next 10 years or more if they keep developing, hopefully with a good coach with focus on discipline and fitness they'll both continue to thrive.