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| Quote: *1865* "Organisation on the field is the HB's job.'"
That may well be true nobody is questioning that. However its not the HB's job as a player to trawl through video and analyse the oppostion and work out tactics and game plans to help gain advantages and spot weaknesses. That is I believe where JW will be utilised and will help coach the players to assist and improve the attacking plays we have struggled with for years.
Why do you want to shove that responsibility on to a player? Surely the best thing to do is to take these responsibilites off players and work within a known series of structures/game plans which the team as a whole have worked on and are used to. Once these things are in place then the HB's role is to dictate the plays as the games unfold.
Bringing in JW is no sleight on Leon Pryce or Mark Sneyd far from it he is simply someone who can hopefully carry on the improvement in our attacking plays and help to achieve consistency.
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| Why would anyone want to give Pryce any extra responsibility, he has been outstanding as a player this year, so lets him concentrate on that?
This clearly isn't a knee jerk reaction or we would have appointed a coach earlier in the season, when we were struggling, the club clearly think Webster will be an asset so are trying to bring him in.
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| Quote: Chris71 "That may well be true nobody is questioning that. However its not the HB's job as a player to trawl through video and analyse the oppostion and work out tactics and game plans to help gain advantages and spot weaknesses. That is I believe where JW will be utilised and will help coach the players to assist and improve the attacking plays we have struggled with for years.
Why do you want to shove that responsibility on to a player? Surely the best thing to do is to take these responsibilites off players and work within a known series of structures/game plans which the team as a whole have worked on and are used to. Once these things are in place then the HB's role is to dictate the plays as the games unfold.
Bringing in JW is no sleight on Leon Pryce or Mark Sneyd far from it he is simply someone who can hopefully carry on the improvement in our attacking plays and help to achieve consistency.'"
Reviewing video is what Horne's doing, what makes you think I'm suggesting putting that on a player?
Like I've said before, pointless discussing it now, it's as good as done.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Why would anyone want to give Pryce any extra responsibility, he has been outstanding as a player this year, so lets him concentrate on that?
This clearly isn't a knee jerk reaction or we would have appointed a coach earlier in the season, when we were struggling, the club clearly think Webster will be an asset so are trying to bring him in.'"
That's my worry, that they think he'll be an asset. Done nothing to warrant it.
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| Quote: *1865* "That's my worry, that they think he'll be an asset. Done nothing to warrant it.'"
As iv'e said in a previous post, that isn't true, Hull massively improved when he came as assistant coach.
I can't remember who was assistant coach in Agar first couple of years in charge?
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| Quote: *1865* "That's my worry, that they think he'll be an asset. Done nothing to warrant it.'"
This. I'll trust their judgement over yours.
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| Quote: Dave K. "As iv'e said in a previous post, that isn't true, Hull massively improved when he came as assistant coach.
I can't remember who was assistant coach in Agar first couple of years in charge?'"
2008/09 we had horrific injuries (Webster was Agar's assistant in 2009) in 2010 we signed Long, Fitz, O'Meley and Turner. Reckon these (the first 3 certainly) had a massive impact on our improvement.
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| Quote: *1865* "2008/09 we had horrific injuries (Webster was Agar's assistant in 2009) in 2010 we signed Long, Fitz, O'Meley and Turner. Reckon these (the first 3 certainly) had a massive impact on our improvement.'"
Maybe that was the reason, but maybe Webster really improved things nobody will know, but the club believe he can improve us, so I'll trust that over a fans view (Who will have never seen him take a training session etc)
I'll have to check, but I don't think Webster joined us until 2010.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Maybe that was the reason, but maybe Webster really improved things nobody will know, but the club believe he can improve us, so I'll trust that over a fans view (Who will have never seen him take a training session etc)
I'll have to check, but I don't think Webster joined us until 2010.'"
Strange way to judge someone's opinion. How many SL coaches, good or bad, have you seen take a session?
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| Quote: *1865* "Strange way to judge someone's opinion. How many SL coaches, good or bad, have you seen take a session?'"
Iv'e actually seen a few, plus a lot of players, but that's not the point anyway, as I am not saying if will be a good appointment or not, I'm going to trust Radford ( ) on this one.
I know a few lot of Hull and Rovers players who have been coached by Webster and are very positive about him.
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| Wenger Ferguson morinho the 3 most successful coaches of the last 25 years not one played football at a high standard the way your saying it ronaldo couldn't be taught anything by Ferguson because he wasn't as good as a player which is rubbish because coaching and playing are completely different but you carry on with your ridiculous argument
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| Quote: *1865* "Reviewing video is what Horne's doing, what makes you think I'm suggesting putting that on a player?
Like I've said before, pointless discussing it now, it's as good as done.'"
But Horne is the Academy Coach and should be spending his time with the Academy which is another reason why the club and maybe looked at JW to allow Horne to concentrate on his role in the Academy set up
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| Quote: Lang Park "My view is that given that the team has recently shown form that people have been crying out for why would you want to go adding a new coach into the mix. I think it has the potential to muddy the waters and undo a lot of the good work that has been done.'"
Good to see you 2 have sorted the little blip out. Always good opinions from you 2.
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| Quote: *1865* "2008/09 we had horrific injuries (Webster was Agar's assistant in 2009) in 2010 we signed Long, Fitz, O'Meley and Turner. Reckon these (the first 3 certainly) had a massive impact on our improvement.'"
Why is it if a team are rubbish its the coach if they do well its the players? Not sure of Websters record as a coach but I know he was unbeaten with us and went on a longish unbeaten run with Wakey when taking over, started the season well and then the inevitable collapse came due to small squad, lack of resources and injuries to key players. Pretty harsh to judge anyone on those terms. His big failing was his approach to the media and the interview where he seemed to throw the towel in.
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