That Leeds crossed our line successfully once upto the 71st minute was testimant to Hulls very good defence. Or, in your world does it mean the opposition are poor if your team has good defence. Strange, some of the most exciting games I have seen have been low scoring affairs, one was ever scoreless. Were both teams poor on those occasions?

Judging on Huddersfield getting gupped at Odsal suggests not everyone of the top 6 would have beaten Leeds this weekend just gone.

Its probably worth you gaining some knowledge of the game to begin with. Start with a kids game, U11's perhaps, it will be easier for you to follow.

It was partly to do with Hull's good defence, but more so Leeds' inability to catch, pass, or even carry the ball properly. They bombed about 4 or 5 straightforward tries with the line begging, Peacock alone fouled 2 up by failing to get the ball to the supporting runner after drawing the fullback.

FYI I was part of a coaching team ( I hold a leverl 1 & 2 coaching badge) for 9 yrs from 9s -16s won several pieces of silverware and a league title, several of our players are now in both KR & FC academy with a couple of others training with Yorkshire...I was also dragged around the amateur circuit from the age of 6 yrs old watching both my brothers play, they both turned professional..So I believe it is fair to say I have plenty of knowledge about rugby...
Did your knowledge come from playing at school or just becoming a supporter ?, either way you still are not watching the game correctly!

MMJ - Owned!

As i've said. Average fb. Strong left, weak right. 2 good prob's. 1 good 9. Never played 13 as a pivot. 2 average halves. What do you expect?

I played at School, being part of a Yorkshire Cup and National Cup winning side. I played Youth Club rugby upto U17's. Played open age for only one and a half season as I was seriously injured whilst playing. Subsequently I trained with a few amateur clubs to keep fit for around 7 year. I have been losely involved sports media on coverage of RL. I have watched the professional game for the last 30 years.

Given the conditions, I thought Leeds did ok. Note, I am not saying they were great, fantastic or even slick, just ok. They did the basics better then Hull. Yes, as Carl points out, they spilled the ball on several occasions, due to the wet conditions. Also, as Carl points out, Peacock did bomb two chances, he should have passed to Ablett. Instead he passed to Maguire, who subsequently knocked on. I lost count of the times the likes of Radford, Westerman, Lauaki etc knocked on within the opposition 20 yard line. To say they were poor suggests you either do not consider Hulls defencive effort in the first 70 mins as being good and you have not factored in the wet conditions.

OH, Seb. You still on your one man boycott? Or did you go against your promise of no longer attending whilst Agar was in charge. Either way you appear to have the backbone of a newt

Welcome, like thinker!

(For what it's worth, I believe ICECREAMMAN is a communal sign-on for a few different people within the club, the odd player, maybe some of the coaching and back-room staff. As BB has pointed out the writing style, grammar and (laughingly) opinions change daily. Somedays he's an Aussie, somedays appears to have a long history in this country. Either way, (t)he(y)'s fascinating.)

Thank ye for the welcome! Its all very entertaining reading for a novice poster ha ha!!

I posted on Sunday that the only positive was the fact our defence was good...Leeds also displayed a good defensive game,. However both teams were poor in offence, Leeds were sbetter but by their own standards poor, the Leeds of last season would have put a cricket score against us had we performed like we did on Sunday, Leeds are not the team they were last year, very inconsistent, the game imo was a poor show overall. Given the conditions our forwards should have won the game but they were poor.

Its irrelevant who he is,he certainly gets peoples backs up tho

I've convinced myself the One In Red Pants is involved to a small or large degree, therefore I'm a fan