We'll always get the best youngsters been the biggest club

But our academy has been average last few years

Fash, bowden, Lane are average really

Lineham and crooks are the best we've brought through in last 10 years and even they're nowhere near the Horne yeaman Cooke etc level

Shaul is better than Lineham and crooks but is he classed as academy? Given he was signed about 19 from skirlaugh

I would say Lane is average, also Lineham was signed from York.

We made a big mistake having the joint academy (Rovers could maybe argue the same) which will have put our academy behind others.

It certainly needs to improve, hopefully we are saying it now with Brown, Wynne and McNamara.

Brown and Wynne are 20 and McNamara is 19. I don't know much about their routes to your first team squad - but a chunk of their formative development years will of been when when the CoH academy was running, 2016–2019. Same with Mikey Lewis and Will Tate at Rovers.

It is difficult to judge the current performance of an academy because you don't really begin to see the results for 3–5 years. Also, given the small numbers involved and year-to-year variations in talent it is difficult to judge how much is down to systems and how much to random fluctuation.

Looking at the famous teams based around batches of homegrown players, across different sports, their success isn't typically sustained by relying heavily just on that model beyond one generation. A lot of the time it is just a temporary confluence of circumstance and talent.

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Maybe they are including Lane as "Matchday"

I make it 7, Wynne, Logan, Fash plus the 4 on the bench.

Maybe they are counting Cator and Scott.

Scott should count, shouldn’t he?

I appreciate i am participating in something I have previously criticisized as unhealthy. But I didn’t start it

Both played in the City of Hull Academy.

Looks like we're losing one of the coaching staff to Cas .

Lovely work. And Shaul, Bowden, Houghton, Matongo and Lane to add to that number as homegrown. Great stuff.

Ooh which one?

Probably Danny Wilson ?