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| What a load of tosh.
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| Quote FM="FM"What a load of tosh.'"
It's not that much actually, only five fairly short words.
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| Quote trys'r'us="trys'r'us"Tony is a fullback. Again, like it or not, that's his best position. Always has been and always will be. And he offered/offers more than Briscoe did, so he was, and would have remained/did remain, first choice. He's not very good at hooker. He's not anywhere near good enough to be playing there regularly and he would be behind Lee and Berrigan for that role. He's not a winger (interesting the people who apparently themselves when he has to take a catch at fullback would be happy to see him on the wing, where it is even easier to target the player with kicks) and he isn't a centre either. He's not played in either role for very long and for good reason. The only other position he could possibly play in the backs is at 6, and the last few games he's had there (for us, NZ and Cas) weren't, to say the least, impressive performances. Again, just one more time in case it finally sinks in, he's a fullback and has been throughout his career.
Finally, Briscoe's not a 'very good' fullback. He's an average, 'solid' fullback, the sort of fullback we seem to persist with in this country and the sort of fullback that will continue to see us embarrassed at the top level.
If you're happy with accepting average 'solidity', that's your choice. It's not mine though, and nor is it the choice of the top coaches/clubs in the game.'"
You can tell me a million times. IMO a specialist full back can deal with the high ball. I'd be fine with Briscoe's "averageness" if that meant being able to defuse a high ball, clear his goal line, defend courageously and back up Richard Horne for try after try 
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| I'd just like to throw into the mixing pot that this long held belief that Motu is somehow a hooker is complete rubbish IMO. He cant pass for a start.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"You can tell me a million times. IMO a specialist full back can deal with the high ball. I'd be fine with Briscoe's "averageness" if that meant being able to defuse a high ball, clear his goal line, defend courageously and back up Richard Horne for try after try :lol:'"
god i miss them moments so much,ahh the memories 
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| Quote wolfie="wolfie"god i miss them moments so much,ahh the memories
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Seemed to be at least once a game. We used to wonder whether the opposition watched any videos - the number of tries we scored off Briscoe on Horne's shoulder and Cooke's cut-out pass was silly. 
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| Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"I'd just like to throw into the mixing pot that this long held belief that Motu is somehow a hooker is complete rubbish IMO. He cant pass for a start.'"
Cant pass, cant catch, cant tackle
So what the hell is he doing on a rugby pitch 
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Seemed to be at least once a game. We used to wonder whether the opposition watched any videos - the number of tries we scored off Briscoe on Horne's shoulder and Cooke's cut-out pass was silly.
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And how we miss it 
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| Quote FM="FM"Cant pass, cant catch, cant tackle
So what the hell is he doing on a rugby pitch
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Can't do any of that yet has still achieved far more in his life than you.
Seriously though, a player who can't pass, can't catch, can't tackle doesn't play for the world champions. You may not rate him as a fb but you can't doubt his talent as a player and if you can't see what the hell he is doing on a rugby pitch then what the hel are you doing in a rugby ground?
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| Quote Matty_HullFC="Matty_HullFC"Can't do any of that yet has still achieved far more in his life than you.
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you might want to rethink that boy
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| Quote trys'r'us="trys'r'us"Tony is a fullback. Again, like it or not, that's his best position. Always has been and always will be. And he offered/offers more than Briscoe did, so he was, and would have remained/did remain, first choice. He's not very good at hooker. He's not anywhere near good enough to be playing there regularly and he would be behind Lee and Berrigan for that role. He's not a winger (interesting the people who apparently themselves when he has to take a catch at fullback would be happy to see him on the wing, where it is even easier to target the player with kicks) and he isn't a centre either. He's not played in either role for very long and for good reason. The only other position he could possibly play in the backs is at 6, and the last few games he's had there (for us, NZ and Cas) weren't, to say the least, impressive performances. Again, just one more time in case it finally sinks in, he's a fullback and has been throughout his career.
Finally, Briscoe's not a 'very good' fullback. He's an average, 'solid' fullback, the sort of fullback we seem to persist with in this country and the sort of fullback that will continue to see us embarrassed at the top level.
If you're happy with accepting average 'solidity', that's your choice. It's not mine though, and nor is it the choice of the top coaches/clubs in the game.'"
Possibily the biggest load of rubbish I've read on this forum in a while.
If the arguement is between Briscoe and Motu in terms of an all round player, then there is a debate, but in the full back position Briscoe wins hands down.
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