Fash is just a run of the mill championship player and as a forward he has no go forward. Add to that his poor penalties probably caused by frustration.

He's our Vice which sums up the hole we are in. Hopefully goes back to being a squad player next season

Wonder if Grix will call out Fash for his sin-bin?….i know we was down on numbers but he seemed to jig the team around to get Moy in and totally unbalanced the team….i was beginning to give him benefit of the doubt bud to leave out a out and out 7 to play a 6 at 7 and f/b at 6 was baffling

I’d sooner promote another youngster over him…he can go for me.

Grix has spoken a lot lately about overplaying the young players and how he hasn't had a lot of choice in some cases but to do so. In this context I can understand why he left Charles out. In a game where it was clear we would struggle to make metres and be under the pump for much of the game Charles would be onto a hiding to nothing so I don't think taking an 18-yr old out of the firing line for today was a bad call.

I get that but he played in a high intensity game in Catalan last week and was outstanding v Wigan…2 games which I’d have said he was on a even bigger hiding to nothing

Grix made the correct call regards to Charles, Wigan, Catalans then Saints all one after another, they're all physical teams are we're running with about 75% of our pack in the stands, missing a week or 2 every now and again will be better for him long term.

Its been obvious for ages
Decent defence but his lack of pace is finding him out
Need to move him on if we can

It makes you wonder just how many of the younger players we have coming through will actually make
S/L players when you see this lad and compare him to say Gardiner who in my opinion is Championship quality if that.
The same with Robertson who looks streets ahead of Moy.
We may have four or five worth working with for a couple of seasons but would be very surprised to see more than two make regular quality S/L players

All we can do is work with them and see if they progress….the biggest hopes are injured…Staveley looked the part,Dawson got a acl and if for that,he would have debuted..is the other one Wainhouse?….Robertson maybe streets ahead but will he stay the pace and Moy may overtake him….we don’t know but our youth set up is a lot better than before and ok,injuries are forcing us to play them but they are getting a chance unlike under Radford…we lost a raft

. Physically Charles isn’t ready yet to play week in week out.

Moy woukd have looked better playing behind saints pack.
Saints were so dominant that Robertson had time and space
Whereas moy didn’t.
I wouldn’t write off any of the young kids yet.
Let’s see how they go next season with bigger and better players around them and better conditioning.

I think Barron looks pretty good this year, and in a year or 2, he and Martin will be numbers 2 and 5 in the squad

Needs releasing!

No use to the team or club when he’s sat in the sin bin again. Having players like Fash in our 17 are the reason we are 11th.

I wouldn't realise him, certainly not for next season, but he shouldn't be a guaranteed a starting place in the 17, same with Lane.

That along with better use of quota spots will help turn us around

Only one quota spot yesterday is criminal.