He's still upset his team got beat last night

People would have said that about Watkins move to 2nd row…tbh,Bonaire has got a point about Carlos in 2nd row.

As for the game…sounded as though they give it a dig,goal-kicks cost us but that happens but why play Houghton when not 100%……end of the day…valiant efforts don’t win games and Grix has still won just one.The next 5 games are seriously scary but can see a couple of good thumping im afraid.

He’s got somethings he’s needs to work on. But Logan Moy is some player going forward. If we can get martin, Moy, Charles, Balmforth etc in key positions give us great scope for our quota players.

dont think so
Had the chance to shine having a class half like Clifford playing with him but he didnt and it was evident then that the pace he had at Castleford was lost since his first serious injury there.
Never runs the ball now and personally dont think he will improve whoever is around him.
He has been another signing that has been a huge disappointment particularly if he is a Marquee player.
I agree injury has not helped him but we cant go on week after week blaming his injuries for underperforming

I agree. Griffin and Watkins have done it successfully and I can't see why he can't do it. I'd only keep him if he's off quota though and if he stays fit until the end of the season which is a big ask as far as Carlos is concerned.

We are where we are. Brakes have been put on our terrible performances and Grix must deserve soon praise. .It's plainly obvious that this team especially when you take in the injured are about where we should be. Young kids coming through. 6 youngsters in the squad today . 2 players coming back from massive injuries.Couple of loan signings A right mix. We have no real size in the pack apart from Ese and Sao. But the lads out there are absolutely giving 100% yet some still whine and moan. How about for once just get behind your team.

There is no whining and moaning about the teams effort today i can see on the forum.
The disappointment is understandable and a bit of a discussion whether Briscoe being carded was the correct decision or is Trueman ever going to get better,other than that the whining and moaning is just in your head

Watkins was already a good line runner and to a degree so was Griffin although I dont accept he has made the transition. Carlos isnt a great line runner and his biggest strengths are his defence and running out the back field.

He hasnt the skill set to move to the back row and we dont need another experiment either.

Hes being injured for the most part, serious injuries and had no pre season for 3 years. Given he has to have several half back partners, constant changing in SR and centre positions I think that plays a bigger part.

A settled side with better players he will be better, thats not to say he will be world class though.

Thank you for being rational. The guy has had it tough. We have turned a corner now and folk still finding fault. We are no world beaters but we’re doing ok after an atrocious start to the season well done Grix etc

I think we got the better end of the deal with the Aydin/Brown swap. He's settled in well and has been really good for us. Massive engine.

INOUTAgree with what everyone is saying tonight. The effort is certainly there, can't fault the players attitude and commitment in recent weeks, especially when compared to the nightmare opening three months of the season, some of the goal-line defence was excellent, almost heroic at times, so plaudits to all on that score. Thought the Briscoe sin-binning was a little harsh, but that's the way the game is now, and in the end it was probably the decisive moment in the deciding the outcome.

The unfortunate aspect is that we are a low-quality side, in truth a bottom-three team, and we simply do not have the standard of players to tip these narrow defeats into victories. That is a consequence of our recruitment decisions over recent years which is an ongoing situation which will take time to address.

I don't like watching us lose, I never have, it becomes depressing for all of us when we are on a run like this, but sometimes you have pick out the positives where you can find them and build on them to move forward, and hopefully we can slowly continue to improve over the next few (tough!!!) games.

I'm a good deal more positive and hopeful than I was in February/March/April when I had genuine fears that the club was about to fall through a trapdoor. I am certainly a good deal more hopeful about our chances for a victory next Saturday than I was before Good Friday (when I was fearing a massacre!). If we can replicate the effort of recent weeks and the crowd become involved and we get the bounce of the ball at the right time then it's not beyond us to pinch a derby upset win. Think the pressure is on rovers after their defeat yesterday and hopefully we can turn that to our advantage. Either way, I'm now hopefully that we have reached the bottom of the curve and we are once more moving in an upwards direction.

Keep the faith everyone.

Well said mate

We now have players who have some desire and effort. a few smart signings by Myler and we have gone from getting beat by 40 points against Leigh and Hudds to been one play away from beating decent teams who are in the play offs.

Moy is definitely improving in attack. At first I thought he was just speed and evasion, but he’s shown better passing with two assists in two weeks. Still, today involved in two obstruction penalties - his timing and awareness is off, but this experience will do him the world of good. His break in the first was brilliant.

Agreed Carlos looks good again. Would definitely consider keeping him if he’s off quota.

Reynolds made a few mistakes, but still did way more than Trueman. Took his try well and was busy. Agree Trueman needs to up his game.

9 of the 17 from our academy (counting Briscoe and Balmforth), 3 of them teenagers, and only 3 quota players. Taking 5th in the league all the way, away from home.