Said this last week, but I would expect only 6 at most of that starting 17 to start the first game next season.

I'd still like to see at least two more players being brought in, a 7 and a backrower, People keep saying the season is over and while it is, you can see what a better performance does for the club and the young players, key that we keep going to the end of the year and try and pick up a few wins.

Sorry Dave but sometimes you hear what you want to hear and see what you want to see. Think Lane’s been dissed far too much this season.

Maybe that's true, will have to watch it again, definitely been better this year, still see him as a squad player at best.

To be fair I was very much of the same opinion as Dave. If you'd have asked me before I saw the stats I'd have said Sao took twice as many carries as Lane.

This.

It will aid the development of the young 'uns infinitely more to be playing in a battling/competing team.

Add a 7 and back-row until the end of the season and we might even pick up some wins.

Even though he hasnt played many minutes at HKR you could see his fitness level was way above some of our players and thats down to their coach getting them ultra fit.
Tinkering Tony has so much to answer for getting us into such a deep hole.
One plus was signing Ese and if we can get Pele fitter he has some potential.
Getting Gaz back into the club is a good first step of getting out of the hole.
Rightly or wrongly i can now see Grix now given the season to see what he can do

Wasn't that always the plan.

Still need a coach who can structure about attack, not sure Grix is that man.

It's another L at the end of the day but some good signs today.

Walker pretty good for his first full game in a few weeks. Ese'Ese impressive. Chamberlain looks a decent centre, a shame he didn't get much in the way of running chances.

Generally a decent display today but the lack of threat in attack is stark though with a teenager and a hooker at halves we are bound to struggle.

I think Grix is doing a good job so far.
The improvement in effort and line speed is night and day. Let's give the guy credit.
Clearly evident that Smith was the problem.
I really enjoyed today, I can't remember the last time I felt that sensation at a Hull game.
We looked like a team with great camaraderie and a willingness to battle for each other.

Blah blah blah blah….Jesus can’t you give it a rest…so what if he looks fitter and Smiths gone now…changes are happening and your not happy about that….you moan for mornings sake…if your that happy that kr are fitter and their coach is better…why don’t you pi££ off there and leave us to have discussions about the investment coming in.

Most positive thing for me today was the team looked fitter, stronger in defence and more together.

Until we sign a good no7 we won't win much but if we get the foundations sorted out now when we do sign one we should be much improved.

Also confirmation that EseEse is a top prop, big shift from him today. Just need some runners playing off his shoulders for his offloads

How far off being back are Ashworth and Tuimavave?

Think Ashworths 6 weeks will be the London game. Not sure on Tuimavave, he’ll probs have a set back anyway.

Sure Grix said Carlos was another month 6 weeks away

Yeah I mean I think with Carlos it's unlikely we get any more value from him, but Ashworth would definitely strengthen us.