Oh j see your point. But I always believe we can win. Yes it's often a misplaced faith but that's just me I guess. It's the hope that kills you

Another chance to see the 2016 Craven Park derby tonight on Sky.

Just to depress you all even more the team that day was

Shaul, Michaels, Fonua, Yeaman, Naughton, Tuimavave, Sneyd, Taylor, Houghton, Watts, Minichiello, Pritchard, Ellis
Subs: Feka, Green, Bowden, Washbrook

Id take the risk and start Jebson at second row, Lane has been in awful form and making costly errors and did again against wigan.

Jebson at second row along with okunbor, would free up Sao and Ashworth to bulk the pack up off the bench , rather than play second row.

Sorry just dont think Lane deserves a place, needs to earn it back.

Don’t think many would argue re Lane as he been poor for the past 2 seasons and can’t see there being enough of an improvement to warrant him getting in the 17. Would prefer to see the club bring on the youth ahead of Lane.

One thing you can Guarantee though with Lane is that he will give away at least 3 six agains and miss several tackles

I can't actually believe the level of absent anticipation I have for Thursday night.

I'm looking forward to it but only because I'm off Friday so can legitimately have a few before, during and after the game and catch up with some faces.

I've had all faith sucked from me.

We'd be gone without Pearson and Smith is doing a fair job with the tools he has, so it's not abject negativity. I've just lost that "spirit" and blind optimism.

Rovers by 14 - 18 for me. I can't see us amassing scores. We will be in it until interchanges.

Funny enough Smith wants to see effort and isn’t bothered about the result. In his words apparently to sponsors the city of Hull make too much of this game and he refuses to get wound up in the hype. It’s 2 points nothing more or less. I want to see development and no we haven’t spent time reviewing them only reviewing us v Wigan. Asked why the Wigan game is not available it’s because he needn’t give them any more of a lift than needed. Wise words if a beaten coach ?

Word salad.

We sure do get them on here don't we!!
Still, I'm all for care in the community!!

As someone on here just said, It's the hope that kills you and indeed it is!!!!

That is an often used phrase about sport but yet at this time of year it is always the norm for me, because without a missed tackle being made in anger everyone across the league who has any sort of love for their club is like me ….. just hoping!

The fans are all about their teams whilst the clubs are all about money now, because TV income is shrinking and IMG are a last real throw of the dice. The game is simply not as attractive to those outside our hallowed circles anymore, we lack much impact from personalities, as our import signings are reduced to either signing ‘has been’ imports or 'chancers' if you like, who want to make a name for themselves here before heading home to cash in and who can blame them?

The game fiddles around the edges with formats, league structures and rule changes but the casual observer and thus the broadcasters don’t buy it at all and offer less and less for the privilege of covering it and after Sky we almost give the rest of the rights away anyway. All this because the game is going backwards yet this week, hope springs eternal once more with thousands of fans, (the real stakeholders in our sport), across the game as a new season starts.

The latest gimmick we are trying is the wheeze of opening the season with the world’s greatest RL Derby, but the reality here in Hull is that starting the season with the biggest game in the city brings the added "bonus" that whoever wins on Thursday goes on with strength while the losers start deflated and on the back foot and perhaps too, a tad low on confidence. I say that because when you play this game a few rounds in you have seen (hopefully) some hope and some wins which you can fall back on if you lose. So, for me this week the stakes have never been higher.

Reading this message board it’s pretty obvious where we all stand on which of those two roles the FC will be occupying come 10-00 pm on Thursday. . Wouldn't a win against the odds be amazing yet who in their right mind can see it? We have injuries in a spine that is anything but established in any case, a suspect back division which seems to find it hard to find the whitewash, several players playing out of position, plus I have to admit a massive pack who are still untried. In addition, we face an opposition who are the self-acclaimed kings of the game. It’s not hard to see why we are so reluctant to even contemplate a win. But these are strange games and can at times be totally unpredictable in fact some would say the more the odds are stacked against you the more chance you have. So we are back to that hope killing us!!!!

We’ll get there get behind the team and do our bit as we always do in such fixtures, in the end we’ll laugh or cry and do it whilst IMG, the RFL and Sky Tv pat each other on their Backs for a job well done. The winners will be top of the league for at least 24 hours, and their fans will think they have finished the season there whilst the losing team will get a big knock in confidence and wringing their hands their supporters will wonder where the next win is coming from if ever!!! However, after such a magnificent opener the game will probably fall on its again along with one of the HULL clubs and apparently we all know which one that will be, for like so many others I have never approached a season with more ambivalence as I am this one, yet I still have hope as do all of you because lets’ face it we wouldn’t be Hull fans if we didn’t! As I always say in such circumstances I’ll be watching the whole game through my fingers in a state of high anxiety whilst envying those watching at home who have the added benefit of an off switch and at the very least a settee to get behind. It's a time when I envy those trainspotters and stamp collectors who are every bit as passionate about their past times but who probably have a longer life expectancy. So, here we go again, its Hull FC, against the odds and boy it’s a good job we love 'em isn't it ???!!!!

If its 'Roger' a few salads wouldn't have gone amiss.

There’s quite a few negative posts on here.
This is my take on it.
kr are not unstoppable.
They are not littered with international players.
They’ve lost 3 of their leaders from last season in Abdul skd linnett.
Folk comparing last game at kc is nonsense. Both squads have changed massively since then.
Wingers.. Ryan hall as good as he was he’s now 36?
Wigan thrashed us in the pre season whilst gearing up for world club challenge. Wigan thrashed kr last season in a play off game.
kr have arguably more biscuit players than we have.
who’s going to organise their team around the field
With a bigger and more mobile forward line I think Lane will improve.
Bear in mind we had probably the smallest pack the last few seasons.
The hype and pressure is on kr.
Keep the faith folks !

The derby has usually been won by the team that wants it the most.
I can only hope Tony Smith has fired the heck out of the players and has them chomping at the bit.
Getting smashed at home last year was the shoitiest low point for years.
Surely all this “ it’s just 2 points” rubbish has gone out of the window.
This is a MASSIVE game and there is more than 2 points available.
There is pride in the shirt and the whole club from Adam to the programme seller.
There is something special to this game and yes we need to play at a level higher than we normally do.
That’s just how Derbies work !!!!
It’s not Wakefield at home
It’s the filthy scum from poorhouse lane with their povo supporters thinking they can throw bricks or bottles onto families.

Let’s win this !!