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It was a game we won twice, then lost at the end which broke Hulls hearts yesterday. The absence of Swift and Jones must of been late calls which further weakened us, and Jake getting injures didn’t help, although Carlos was great replacing him. When Scotty goes off, does he go for his dinner, as his prolonged absence on match day after his first stint is way to long. We were undone by the rampaging Sam Kasiano, we couldn’t control big Sam, then little Sam decided to show us, he’s not a wxxxxr after all, will we ever learn.
Then Maloney showed us how halfbacks can run, and thus a bleak silence fell on West Hull, a very disappointing end to a game which was stolen from us, partly by ineptitude, mostly by a team who showed more mental aptitude and desire.

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I know Kasiano played well, but he is so effective because he runs on to the ball at speed, but they run in 2's. It means that we cannot commit 3 players to tackle Kasiano, when Bosquet or Casty is running with him. It means he can get a quick play the ball. We run in 1's, all the time. No support, no prop pushing through in support of the runners. Easy to defend against

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Quote: Wilde 3 "I know Kasiano played well, but he is so effective because he runs on to the ball at speed, but they run in 2's. It means that we cannot commit 3 players to tackle Kasiano, when Bosquet or Casty is running with him. It means he can get a quick play the ball. We run in 1's, all the time. No support, no prop pushing through in support of the runners. Easy to defend against'"


Think you need to define 'Run' as I'd say we just plod forward with no pace at all. The only one he seemed to actually run the ball in with pace was Satae & Ma'u and occasionally Sao. We just don't and are never set up to run at pace as we are so slow and painful with our distribution that when a player receives the ball they are either stood still or totally flat footed.

Its the same every week we have no structure going forward and its just one out rugby the majority of the time and reliance of a Sneyd kick (whos's distribution was very poor on Sunday) or bit of magic/maverick play from Kelly or Connor, other than that there is very little. Same old same old for seasons now its nothing that's new but yet we still do not have any support play or dummy runners or players willing to run different lines.

So whilst that may be great in training it is just to predictable and easy for the opposition to snuff out.

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Quote: Wilde 3 "I know Kasiano played well, but he is so effective because he runs on to the ball at speed, but they run in 2's. It means that we cannot commit 3 players to tackle Kasiano, when Bosquet or Casty is running with him. It means he can get a quick play the ball. We run in 1's, all the time. No support, no prop pushing through in support of the runners. Easy to defend against'"
Sounds like Mcnamara is the coach we need.

God only knows how we beat his team so many times last season.God only knows how we beat every single team in super league except for Saints, at least once last season(some more than once) when we're so poorly coached.

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Quote: Rocknrolla69er "Fitness isnt an issue but the management of interchanges certainley is, some players are out on their feet but left on and the inevitable try comes.

Sorry but Eliis, Taylor, Sao should of been on ten minutes earlier to see the win out, in my eyes thats very poor coaching.

No utility on the bench to cope with Connors loss, whats wrong with Cator? Surely a better option than Fash.

Better players but nothings changed

Time for a new coach'"

The Connor loss is interesting where I was sat Drinkwater came in on Connor with both his knees into the prone body of Connor it was opposite me in East stand the linesman stood quite close but seemed to have missed it.A professional game with amateur officials should not be allowed to continue wake up RFL and sort this out

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Quote: giddyupoldfella "[*]Sounds like Mcnamara is the coach we need.

God only knows how we beat his team so many times last season.God only knows how we beat every single team in super league except for Saints, at least once last season(some more than once) when we're so poorly coached.'"


Most sides in the league will ask forwards to run in 2's. Most sides in the league will have a full back or someone there to take an offload. Most sides in the league can create overlaps easily on a shift play to give their full back space. If you are happy with how we play, the tactics we operate with, then good for you. I expect more from a talented squad that is capable of finishing in the top 3 if we play to their strengths.

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Quote: Wilde 3 "Most sides in the league will ask forwards to run in 2's. Most sides in the league will have a full back or someone there to take an offload. Most sides in the league can create overlaps easily on a shift play to give their full back space. If you are happy with how we play, the tactics we operate with, then good for you. I expect more from a talented squad that is capable of finishing in the top 3 if we play to their strengths.'"
Are you saying our full back isn't there to receive an offload? If so, then how do you explain his try from less than 24 hours ago?

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Quote: giddyupoldfella "Are you saying our full back isn't there to receive an offload? If so, then how do you explain his try from less than 24 hours ago?'"


1 swallow doesn't make a summer. How many times do we look for an offload and find nobody there??

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Quote: Wilde 3 "1 swallow doesn't make a summer. How many times do we look for an offload and find nobody there??'"
So even when they do what you demand, it's still not good enough?

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Quote: giddyupoldfella "So even when they do what you demand, it's still not good enough?'"


I posted on a different thread, that some fans are happy with one offs. Sneyd's drop goal to potentially win the game would be lauded, yet his missed tackle attempts, poor last tackle kicks, and his inability to create anywhere near the level of chances in the opposition 20 that our competitors halves do would be forgotten about.

Shaul backing up (finally!) would overshadow the blind alley's he runs into, the space he takes away from his centre and his winger on shift plays, compared to our competitors full backs.

If we praise them, we need to criticise their deficiencies too. When Wigan fans are coming on to the forum last week and saying that Shaul is the issue with our attacking structure, it says a lot

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Quote: giddyupoldfella "[*]Sounds like Mcnamara is the coach we need.

God only knows how we beat his team so many times last season.God only knows how we beat every single team in super league except for Saints, at least once last season(some more than once) when we're so poorly coached.'"


well said Lee

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Quote: bonaire "well said Lee'"
For sure

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I don't seem to be able to find any post match interview from Radford anywhere.
Has he not done one?

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Quote: Isaiah "I don't seem to be able to find any post match interview from Radford anywhere.
Has he not done one?'"

blunderside did one which they linked to on twitter. He didn't sound like someone who thought he'd be sacked any time soon

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Quote: Jake the Peg "blunderside did one which they linked to on twitter. He didn't sound like someone who thought he'd be sacked any time soon'"


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