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Quote: bonaire "Where is Mr Wiz and friends when you need their eloquent appraisal'"


They’ve probably just got home from the pub, after watching the game.

Like me.

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "They’ve probably just got home from our secret club after watching the high lights of our CC final games and plotting our next attack of spin.

Like me.'"



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Quote: Chris71 "No because then we were pretty abismal and so was the club as a whole and we all knew it, you can’t compare those times to now. However bad we where then at least the players gave it their best shot and would probably show a thing or two to the current cosseted bunch.

The club now has everything it needs to be successful the players want for nothing but yet they serve up poop again. At least back then we had real reasons as why we were so poor. That’s why I disillusioned but guess unless you aren’t allowed an opinion if you don’t look through the rose tinted glasses.

Call it what you like if that makes you happy but you don’t know me so your assumption of it being ‘Hyperbole’ is totally wrong but you fill your boots and keep pretending we’re serious challengers.'"


OK lets look more recently then, you are saying that you are more deflated than 2014 when we finished 11th and got knocked out of the cup at the first stage? That's up to you.

Where did I say you aren't allowed an opinion? I was just disagreeing with you, chill out.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "OK lets look more recently then, you are saying that you are more deflated than 2014 when we finished 11th and got knocked out of the cup at the first stage? That's up to you.

Where did I say you aren't allowed an opinion? I was just disagreeing with you, chill out.'"


You were critical, along with your other half of this guys feelings not his opinion and were both quick to do.
You cannot quantify how he feels and so to disagree with his emotions shows a lack of respect or empathy on both your parts.

No one is chatting the 90s or the more recent time you've quoted above and more importantly no one is bothered about that, it's boring and of no consequence.

We're discussing the here and now and if that is how he feels then so be it.
You don't have to agree but nor do you need to appear condescending.

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Quote: Bombed Out "You were critical, along with your other half of this guys feelings not his opinion and were both quick to do.
You cannot quantify how he feels and so to disagree with his emotions shows a lack of respect or empathy on both your parts.

No one is chatting the 90s or the more recent time you've quoted above and more importantly no one is bothered about that, it's boring and of no consequence.

We're discussing the here and now and if that is how he feels then so be it.
You don't have to agree but nor do you need to appear condescending.'"


I think it's fair to question someone saying this is the lowest they have felt in 40 years given what else has gone on in those 40 years.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "I think it's fair to question someone saying this is the lowest they have felt in 40 years given what else has gone on in those 40 years.'"


Admittedly a lot has happened but they're his thoughts and emotions, after yet another dreadful performance, who are we to question that?

You/ComeOnYouUll clearly disagree, as is your right to do so but you are highly critical and stifle opinion in your defence and self instilled protection of Lee and the club against other posters who don't share your views.
Now I'm not getting into this as it's a massive thread drift and of no relevance to the topic of last night's match.

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Quote: Bombed Out "Admittedly a lot has happened but they're his thoughts and emotions, after yet another dreadful performance, who are we to question that?

You/ComeOnYouUll clearly disagree, as is your right to do so but you are highly critical and stifle opinion in your defence and self instilled protection of Lee and the club against other posters who don't share your views.
Now I'm not getting into this as it's a massive thread drift and of no relevance to the topic of last night's match.'"


Look, the poster in question said this was the lowest feeling for 40 years. I think it's entirely reasonable to question that. You then said the 90s were irrelevant and boring. They are not, this was precisely the point. I feel that this is a relatively good position in the context of my 30 years supporting the club and feel satisfied that in a resource context if you flipped Salford and Leeds we are punching at our weight. Hopefully you will afford those feelings due respect and empathy.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Look, the poster in question said this was the lowest feeling for 40 years. I think it's entirely reasonable to question that. You then said the 90s were irrelevant and boring. They are not, this was precisely the point. I feel that this is a relatively good position in the context of my 30 years supporting the club and feel satisfied that in a resource context if you flipped Salford and Leeds we are punching at our weight. Hopefully you will afford those feelings due respect and empathy.'"

He said it was his lowest feeling and only he knows. There will be other factors involved including life stages. Back in my 20s I wasnt that bothered about how we played as I was invariably lashed and he may be the same but whether you like it or not, only he can say how he feels in relation to another time in his life.

As for the game, utter shat and the same old weve come to expect. It's like watching a bunch of young kids running around not knowing what to do. Absolutely shambolic performance particularly poor with ball in hand

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We can change the forwards all we want, but if they are getting the ball standing still, or receiving a poor drop off from our spine, then can only see it being the same next season.
Quick question.....when was the last time you saw one of our halves get clobbered after passing the ball like we did to huddersfield last night? Answer.....no idea, as our halves dont engage the line!

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Look, the poster in question said this was the lowest feeling for 40 years. I think it's entirely reasonable to question that. You then said the 90s were irrelevant and boring. They are not, this was precisely the point. I feel that this is a relatively good position in the context of my 30 years supporting the club and feel satisfied that in a resource context if you flipped Salford and Leeds we are punching at our weight. Hopefully you will afford those feelings due respect and empathy.'"


I particularly enjoyed the 90s, probably a bit too much.
I was referring to the subject matter of the post being irrelevant and boring.

Resource context? Punching our weight?
What are you on about?
We were a couple of years ago the 3rd highest supported club in terms of attendance, iirc, only bettered by Leeds and Wigan, add in to that the gate receipts from finals.
In a salary capped sport with a relative level playing field cut the bs and spin. It does not wash.
Convince yourself all is rosy, Lee is the best coach ever and we're punching above our weight.
Set your expectations low and then you can never be disappointed.

Last night was yet another abysmal, inept, gutless performance against an even poorer side we should have beaten.
These displays and last nights Hull team are becoming a regular occurrence.
It's not acceptable and ultimately the head coach is responsible as the manager/leader of said group.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "He said it was his lowest feeling and only he knows. There will be other factors involved including life stages. Back in my 20s I wasnt that bothered about how we played as I was invariably lashed and he may be the same but whether you like it or not, only he can say how he feels in relation to another time in his life.

As for the game, utter shat and the same old weve come to expect. It's like watching a bunch of young kids running around not knowing what to do. Absolutely shambolic performance particularly poor with ball in hand'"


Don't question her Jake, you'll make yourself dizzy as you get caught up in her world of spin icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Bombed Out "Don't question her Jake, you'll make yourself dizzy as you get caught up in her world of spin I'm married mate and used to listening to the incessant buzzing in my ear so am immune to it

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Quote: Wilde 3 "We can change the forwards all we want, but if they are getting the ball standing still, or receiving a poor drop off from our spine, then can only see it being the same next season.
Quick question.....when was the last time you saw one of our halves get clobbered after passing the ball like we did to huddersfield last night? Answer.....no idea, as our halves dont engage the line!'"


Connor ran across the line looking to create gaps and showed again he is a much better centre than stand off.

Sneyd, kicking game aside will just catch and pass so far away from the defensive line, making us easy to read and defend against.
You could count on 1 hand the amount of quality games he's had were he's taken on the line.

But but he's a double Lance Todd trophy winner I hear some of you say.
That does not make him a good player but merely the best player in that particular game. He is no where near international level and never will be until he adds more to his game and stops becoming a 1 trick pony.
He's got it in him, we just rarely see it.
But again imo our halves were still better then Hudds last night and should have bossed that game.

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Our attacking structures are non existent which is why were so awful in the opposition 20. It looks like we simply don't do any attack training, nor di we back up the man with the ball, make much use of offload or dummy runners. And our passing is simply woeful. I saw one occasion last night when sneyd passed the ball and it bounced before reaching the player he passed to.

Changes needed imo

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Look, the poster in question said this was the lowest feeling for 40 years. I think it's entirely reasonable to question that. You then said the 90s were irrelevant and boring. They are not, this was precisely the point. I feel that this is a relatively good position in the context of my 30 years supporting the club and feel satisfied that in a resource context if you flipped Salford and Leeds we are punching at our weight. Hopefully you will afford those feelings due respect and empathy.'"


And who gives you the right to question how I feel?? No one!!

Feelings are personal to each individual are feelings right or wrong?Feelings are neither -they just are. If I said I felt hot would you question that? Yes you could argue it wasn’t warm but couldn’t question that I felt hot!! As you can’t know how I feel.

You are not a judge, a jury or an executioner yet discredit people’s opinions or feelings that don’t match yours yet want your views to be respected.
I’ve backed you up over the years when people called you for your negative diatribeas a form of self preservation but I think its more a case of youre just so full of yourself and you think your view/opinions are the only ones that count.

Now before I get accused of thread drift/derailment last night was just utter garbage and not good enough for a team hoping and talking crap like making a GF. Jesus wept the have been nilled twice, in recent weeks and were hot favourites to be relegated and we serve up another p!5s poor performance. The coach has had more than enough time to sort out the levels of performance and he simply hasn’t in fact I’d argue we are worse. Had Huddersfield been any better than utter themselves we’d have been 12 nil down after about 7 mins.

And the old but we won 2 challenge cups and in the top 5 after been told we’d finish bottom 4 arguemeny doesn’t wash either and you can only dine out of past success for so long before the plate is empty. We have had two massive opportunities to all but seal 2nd spot and failed spectacularly.

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