Did Jake swear at the official, if not sending of sufficient, then again that seems to be the rule for every other team, we wait with baited breath.

…. the way he played tonight he's hardly going to be missed next week.

Catalans are IMO the only team who can trouble Saints & Wire. I might even put a bet on them if I can find decent odds.

Your so witty Bob, apart from when your rattled, then your quite nasty.

Hauraki says today you're a top 5 team, so would be crazy to rule Rovers out when it'll come down to knock out rugby. I agree Catalans are a good side though.

Come on, AK Sneydy and Jake have all hit it off just recently, disjointed tonight, we move on, poor performance, and two points lost, but we need all our best players playing against Cas.

This is what frustrates me with this Radford team, any adversity, we just roll over and take it up the assssss , I honestly don’t think people watch the same game as me on here, our defence was a shocker , effort was poor , attitude , intensity awful , I just don’t get it . Just watched cas , and still with all they injuries , they make a game of it and can take something from it . We just accept getting but fuc@&£Ed because we have injuries , at least show some effort for ducks sake

Maybe, have a feeling Carlos may be in contention but suspect Connor might get a ban. Radford said Westerman was playing injured today with Liam Harris a lateish withdrawal.

I've got used to these performances under Radders, they were there in 2016 and 17, but we've ended up delivering when it mattered most, to win silverware (Last season doesn't count because injuries crippled us) How can you not be confident in this group?

Exactly, we are in 2019 now and I’m sick of these performances, injuries or not , I like Radford a lot , just don’t like watching an hull team coached by him , think he needs to improve rapid or get some help

LR - “ the players had a distant gaze in their eyes “
“ I said at half time we will get beat here”
“ The players are strange characters”

Does he have to say anymore ?

That kind of sums it for me. Too often we are getting badly beaten, not because we are massively outclassed, but because we are going in with a poor attitude.

We have lost 6 times this year. 2 of them (Rovers and Cas) I felt like we have our best effort. It's still frustrating to lose in those situations, but we could hold our heads up. The other 4, we just haven't been at it mentally, and that's a worry. When things start to go wrong we just seem to give up. Saints, Warrington, Wakefield and Catalans are all good teams. They are capable of beating us even if we play well. But nobody can tell me we made an honest effort in any of those games.

Shocking from start to finish. No organisation in attack which is understandable to an extent but errors all night and our defence is woeful at times. Time to ship out most of those off contract IMO

I just wish LR would admit we got recruitment wrong, it's obvious he agrees looking at plans for next season. The one good thing about these results such be realisation that the pack isn't good enough, every time we win and we are 3rd etc, I have the fear that we will announce extensions to Paea, Mini and Manu.

Pack is full of old past it players or average ones, desperately need another 3 forwards.

Agreed I'd like to add the likes of Fash and Thompson to that.