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Quote: threepennystander "Fans who don't renew killing the club? Is he for real. Always backed pearson but the guy is losing the plot and will be losing more fans with idiotic statements like that.The fans have stuck with his next season will be the season bull for how long.After the leeds play off we all loved the "never again will this club come to leeds and be embarrassed,and scraping into the play offs will not be excepted "speech ( unless its 2015 and thats our main aim ). We've had the building a british based side with future internationals speech ( which means overpaying unproven players on long contracts then having to pay them off,or its 2016 and we need to look to the nrl for our recruitment).Then we got the home grown wigan approach with the club hull speech ( until we decide to merg our academy with our biggest rivals despite more lads stepping up to first grade than ever) . Throughout all these false dawns and grand statements we've turned up more times than the team. Now he pulls out his ace card "the fans who don't renew their passes are killing this club". I'm not disputing it won't have a drastic effect on the club but to lay it at the fans feet is a joke..I'd ask the question if he's been watching the same team as me. If he has it can't be to hard to see why people aren't renewing anymore. Sorry adam but this situation is down to you more than us. Best intentions? Yes. Terrible decisions? Yes Trouble ahead? Most definitely'"


I agree and he's p----ing every one off with his fazes he flips more than a dice .
If he wants help sell us the fans some of the club that way we have a voice even if only 5/10 percent divided over say 5000 supporters but no he's to much I'm right and you all know nowt type.
Oh before you all jump on my back I will get a pass just in hope

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really think its time we stuck together and got behind hull fc,things are not rosy in the garden and imo we need to get behind the club,

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Of course if Radford did the decent thing and resigned there would be no cost of paying him off, then Pearson could appoint a good coach and sell loads of passes. Problem solved.

Radford would then be the man who saved the club.

It won't happen of course but its a nice idea.

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Call me cynical but could this be the spin and excuse that leads to a full on merger with KR.

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On a side note, weve signed all these great back rowers etc then gone out an said were fooked financially and in the mire. Bet they cant wait to come now icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: hull2524 "really think its time we stuck together and got behind hull fc,things are not rosy in the garden and imo we need to get behind the club,'"

I agree we need to stick with the club but feel there is now a devide developing between pearson and the fans and comments like today will not see the disgruntled fans returning.i'm just preying we do pull a magic season out of somewere to halt this slide.

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radio Humberside interview 19 minutes into sports talk plenty of food for thought for happy Clappers, grumblers, protaganists, Radford in or outers, merger yeh ers and nay ers etc Worth a listen

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radio Humberside interview 19 minutes into sports talk plenty of food for thought for happy Clappers, grumblers, protaganists, Radford in or outers, merger yeh ers and nay ers etc Worth a listen

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Quote: Sebasteeno "On a side note, weve signed all these great back rowers etc then gone out an said were fooked financially and in the mire. Bet they cant wait to come now
seems all the more bizarre that Pearson should give up (if he did resign) a very well paid job with Leeds when he is complaining about putting more personal money into the club.
Should also have had more to say about extending Yeamans and possibly Fekas contract and the nonsense signing of Washbrook which would have saved a few bob or paid for a quality wing or centre which we are truly missing

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Quote: bonaire "seems all the more bizarre that Pearson should give up (if he did resign) a very well paid job with Leeds when he is complaining about putting more personal money into the club.
Should also have had more to say about extending Yeamans and possibly Fekas contract and the nonsense signing of Washbrook which would have saved a few bob or paid for a quality wing or centre which we are truly missing'"



My view entirely. If we really are in such a state there have been truly incomprehensible decisions made in recent months which will have significantly worsened things. Why commit to high value, long term deals for players if the money isn't there to pay them? The person making these decisions is either an idiot or a liar

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A drop in attendances of 1k per year for 4 years adds up to at least £2.5m in income. A tidy sum.
He didn't say these new guys are not affordable, but a key income stream is not generating the kind of money needed to maintain this level of investment over the longer term.

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Quote: ccs "A drop in attendances of 1k per year for 4 years adds up to at least £2.5m in income. A tidy sum.
He didn't say these new guys are not affordable, but a key income stream is not generating the kind of money needed to maintain this level of investment over the longer term.'"


A better product on the pitch will increase the walk up gate next season and generate more pass sales in 2017.

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Quote: ccs "A drop in attendances of 1k per year for 4 years adds up to at least £2.5m in income. A tidy sum.
He didn't say these new guys are not affordable, but a key income stream is not generating the kind of money needed to maintain this level of investment over the longer term.'"

He should have appointed a decent coach then and the attendances wouldn't have dropped. Pretty poor blaming the fans for the situation we're in which is all of his own making

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imo I believe we have made good signings for next year, pearson has but a lot of money in and ok has made some dodgy calls,we have a team to challenge for 5 or 6 and maybe top 4 who knows, if that happens the crowds will start to improve imo

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Quote: ccs "A drop in attendances of 1k per year for 4 years adds up to at least £2.5m in income. A tidy sum.He didn't say these new guys are not affordable, but a key income stream is not generating the kind of money needed to maintain this level of investment over the longer term.'"


These are based on our home SL matches, we haven't had a play-off game since 2013 so I've not included them in the averages.
2011 161,557 agg, 13 matches Av. 12,427
2012 154,515 agg, 13 matches Av. 11,886 (+8,862 PO game)
2013 151,355 agg, 13 matches Av. 11,642 (+4,970 PO game)
2014 143,891 agg, 13 matches Av. 11,068
2015 156,467 agg, 14 matches Av. 11,173
Total 'lost' fans by comparison to the aggregate of 2011 is strangely exactly 40,000 (7042+10202+17666+5090), if you want to then take off the extra fans from having play-off games that's 26,168 fewer home fans over 4 years.

Based on your £2.5M & 26,168 fewer fans Adam Pearson has lost an average of £95.54[inet[/i for every single fan from home (league & PO) gate money which can't be right because average [igross[/i income per fan over the 4 year period is at most £18 (taking into account juniors and lower season pass costs in previous seasons), however you have to take off the wedge of money that SMC takes makes the actual net income to the club per fan very much less.
I think someone once mentioned less than £10 but I've no idea how the deal works, but whatever it is, over 4 years the amount in lost income from fans through the gate is nowhere near the £2.5M you've stated, 5 times less if we're being v.generous so this massive loss of income doesn't seem to be quite as bad as you're trying to make out.

Either way he has to do something to encourage the fans back and stop making antagonising statements that puts the onus/blame squarely onto the fans, having a pop at those deciding to keep their money in their pocket due to the rubbish on the pitch is decidedly not the way to do it.

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Quote: Diogenes "A better product on the pitch will increase the walk up gate next season and generate more pass sales in 2017.'"


Is there such a thing now everyone has to buy a ticket?

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