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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "There's two ways to look at it for me. Either he genuinely believes what Radford is telling him about the players effort and thinks one lucky win might start us on a run. If that's the case then he obviously doesn't know very much about the game and how it's played, because if he did he would be able to see for himself what is so painfully obvious to most of us who do know a thing or two.

The second possibility is that he knows he's made a mistake, but after sacking Gentle and backing Radford to the point where he has effectively said he won't be sacked no matter what, he is too stubborn to backtrack and admit his mistakes.

There's also a third option which is that he wants to act but doesn't think he can afford to after all the other recent expenses. I don't think this is likely though. He must realise that if he doesn't act in order to save money now it will only sting him worse in the future.'"


i think the last is pretty plausible. It's not so much that his heels are dug in, but that his pockets are almost empty. Wilf mentioned in his diary about people leaving the club on the commercial/community side and not being replaced, a week or two ago.
It might be most cost-effective to replace the coach, but if it's not affordable it's not an option. His pre-emotive clarity on Radford staying come what may, would perhaps make more sense too.
I dunno, but I do wonder.

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Quote: mean_machine "You made metres fairly well, just looked scared to go out and play rugby.'"


This. For me, whilst Rovers played well they didn't exactly blow us away like Leeds did a few weeks ago. We got down their end of the field easily enough and then just... fell to pieces. Rovers defended what we threw at them very well but we just didn't look at all threatening.

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Quote: Mild Rover "i think the last is pretty plausible. It's not so much that his heels are dug in, but that his pockets are almost empty. Wilf mentioned in his diary about people leaving the club on the commercial/community side and not being replaced, a week or two ago.
It might be most cost-effective to replace the coach, but if it's not affordable it's not an option. His pre-emotive clarity on Radford staying come what may, would perhaps make more sense too.
I dunno, but I do wonder.'"


Maybe. But we had a fans forum earlier in the week though in which he said we're on course to break even and appoint a CEO which contradicts the money thing somewhat.

Sigh, I just don't know what to make of things any more...

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Total apathy from the players. They have no fire or passion for the Club. No one shouting, congratulating. The body language alone shows they don't care .
Just watch the togetherness of both Wigan and Saints at the moment.
Yet another year with no leader. A rudderless ship .

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I didn't believe that we could play as badly as we did yesterday. For me it was another step down from what I thought was the bottom. And in a derby as well. We need a new coach and some new players. In terms of the players I'd start at hooker and clear all three of the current crop out.

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Quote: HFC Boy "Total apathy from the players. They have no fire or passion for the Club. No one shouting, congratulating. The body language alone shows they don't care .
Just watch the togetherness of both Wigan and Saints at the moment.
Yet another year with no leader. A rudderless ship .'"

Striking difference. Celebrating knock-ons by the other side like a cup win. Great to see.

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Quote: Staffs FC "I didn't believe that we could play as badly as we did yesterday. For me it was another step down from what I thought was the bottom. And in a derby as well. We need a new coach and some new players. In terms of the players I'd start at hooker and clear all three of the current crop out.'"


Agree, Houghton is the most overrated player in SL. His distribution is quite frankly appalling.

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Quote: HFC Boy "Total apathy from the players. They have no fire or passion for the Club. No one shouting, congratulating. The body language alone shows they don't care .
Just watch the togetherness of both Wigan and Saints at the moment.
Yet another year with no leader. A rudderless ship .'"

You could also look at the togetherness of hull kr. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: deslawson "You could also look at the togetherness of hull kr.
Saw enough of that last night thank you Des!

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Quote: deslawson "You could also look at the togetherness of hull kr. Hurry des or you'll miss the parade

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:after the catalan game,i posted "i traveled home a happy chappy",but today after that rubbish last night,i traveled home a sad chap. icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED: but never the less,i shall be there for the widness game. d040.gif

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If we the supporters new what was going to happen next and we did last night think how easy it is for the opposition.
That's just bad coaching be better of saying just do your own dam thing.

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Quote: WIZEB "Totally inept and don't really know where we go from here.
If we'd had our captain and expensive scrum half on the park ( not convinced at all by him) you just know it wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference.
Felt for Mini and Micky P, at least they showed some endeavour.
Not convinced about Shaul at full back. He's a kid I suppose, and learning the trade.
Biggest bugbear for me is Houghton. I know he can tackle but I'm sick of fooking seeing him tackle. In offence his decision making in which side of the line to attack is woeful. Not that we'd do any good if he occasionally went the right way I suppose.
Stephen Kearney.
Craig Fitzgibbon.
Peter Sharp.
I'd bite your hand off for any of the 3 of them at present.
But they've all done their penance at our club.'"



Agree about Houghton , We have our own Malcom Alker , He can rack up the tackles but can do f**k all else . Why does he not read the play. Again last night he went blind side with only one man to pass to , Yet there was 5 rovers defenders in front of him .

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Quote: B0NES "Agree about Houghton , We have our own Malcom Alker , He can rack up the tackles but can do f**k all else . Why does he not read the play. Again last night he went blind side with only one man to pass to , Yet there was 5 rovers defenders in front of him .'"


Have to agree. Makes 1000 tackles a season but offers little in offence.

I don't see much leadership from him either.

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Absolutely Pathetic!

I've followed Hull for forty years and couldn't believe what I was seeing last night.

Passing Very poor. At school we were taught to pass at waist height just in front of the person so they could run on to the ball. Last night we were passing the ball at head height, or passing behind the man, (or at the man) that they had to remian static.

5th Tackle I'd love to see the Hull FC/Doncaster Play Book for fifth tackles? Our first set last night, in the Rovers 20m, we failed to attempt any last tackle move. Later on in the game, again in the Rovers 20m - there was a delay due to an injury, on teh restart (last tackle) we drove it in for a handover to Rovers. Who is calling the shots. In my school rugby (union) team, we had over 40 plays, every player knew every move, where they had to be etc. In a match, our stand off (or captain) would call the move. If they went off, or were in the ruck, someone else would call the next move. It was drilled into us. That is when I was a 14 year old school boy who tarined 2.5 hours a week.

Kicking Actually better than recent years last night. We actually made the ball bounce as opposed to sending it straight to the full back or winger. However, other than targeting their suspect winger twice, their was no real pressure exerted.

Line Breaks If there was one, I missed it.

Attack I'm normally the most optimistic of fans, however mid way through the 2nd half last night, I made the comment that even if we had the whole of the Doncaster side on our side, we still wouldn't score.

We have a squad on the maximum salary cap. They play in summer, on excellent pitches, with a modern, grippable ball (not like the old soap bars we had at school). They are full time professionals and probbly train 10-20 hours per week. This is not good enough. However, the buck stops completely with the Coach.

He'll site the quick turnaround, but Rovers also palyed last Friday. I know the game is faster these days (now played by full time professionals, but I remember Hull playing Good Friday, Easter Saturday and Easter Monday in the early 80's (seem to remember Steve Evans scored two hat tricks in two days - without to many aches and pains)

Radford will also site injuries, well as has been mentioned previously, these are part and parcel of the game.

Unfortunately, what he won't site is that he is clueless. Lee Radford was a good player, but as a Coach has become an embarrassment!

Time to go Lee. Now! icon_wave.gif

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