I want the away end packed every game, except that lot, i'd ban them.

It happened in Glasgow......

Other than Rovers there isn't a single side that has filled the away end. It has seldom even come close to 3/4.

It was obviously a fictitious scenario, just seeing where people sit on each side of atmosphere and money.

I know of no bank that accepts atmosphere deposits

I was talking as a fan, do you take say a 500 away crowd and more money or 2000-3000 crowd with a better atmosphere and experience.

But it's pointless. You might as well ask if people would rather have £100 or a pair of rocket boots.

I will admit that I think the KC is a little overpriced, but I also think you maybe need to consider how much the lack of away fans is a contributing factor in the first place. Perhaps if most clubs brought more than the player's wives and parents as an excuse for an away following the prices wouldn't have risen so high. I'm not saying that would definitely be the case, but when the North Stand is consistently outnumbered by the stewards and catering staff then you've made yourselves such a minority that it's just further reason for the club not to put you too high in the list of priorities. They'll sort the home crowds out first and worry about you once that's fixed.

I think there should be some sort of initiative for away fans, not aiming this at Hull but all teams, come up with an idea that brings in the numbers oh and my scenarios are also not aimed at Hull.

What clubs need to realise is the atmosphere is one of the big selling points, and if you're not producing it, it ruins the experience.

Look at London, even if they won SL for the next 3 years running i still think they'd struggle with crowds, they have no real rivalry, away fans don't get overly passionate there and people leave feeling a little flat, i know, I've watched them often enough

Just to point out, including petrol money/coach fares Hull and Rovers fans spend more as away fans than the other clubs in the north of England as we have further to travel.

Warrington have a number of near neighbours. Widnes, St Helens and Wigan all within 13 miles or so I believe which is like Hull playing away games in Beverley, Brough and South Cave.

Salford, Swinton and Leigh too

Even if it was free, no club would bring 2000-3000

"But it's pointless. You might as well ask if people would rather have £100 or a pair of rocket boots."

Rocket boots please mate......where do I sign?

Two to three thousand away fans?

If we offered the seats for free and paid the travel we wouldn't get 2-3k from the majority of SL clubs. In those circumstances I'd take the option that made us some cash, cheers.

London's problem, as with the majority of clubs, is the number of [ihome[/i fans that turn up regularly. This needs fixing long before worrying about the away fans. AP realises that fact, and hence the incentives will be aimed at home fans until the numbers rise to an acceptable level.

We're used to small away followings and Hull fans will turn up in numbers if the product on the pitch is good and home pricing is right [iregardless[/i of how full the North Stand happens to be.

Rocket Boots sound interesting......

If Sky do start televising Monday night games, there'll be no problem counting the numbers of travelling away fans, unless the games are at adjacent clubs